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downtown 10-26-2005 11:47 AM

55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
Villain is a super-duper-ultra LAG, is not good at poker, and is absolutely running over the table to this point, though only the tighter players are left.

So then, what's your line on the flop and turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1740)
UTG (t705)
MP (t1534)
CO (t4066)
Button (t895)
SB (t1060)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t300) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t225</font>, SB folds, Hero calls t225.

Turn: (t750) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

zambonidrivr 10-26-2005 11:49 AM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
i like shoving the flop.
get this monkey to fold this hand, adding chips to your stack. focus on busting this a-wipe out in the next 2 orbits.

funny, i was playing last night and caught QQ, KK, AA, AA all in consecutive hands. After the second preflop raise with KK, I got 2 people moving in on me when I was holding AA. It was a 50, and it was over when blinds were at $200.

kyro 10-26-2005 11:51 AM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
Your stack is healthy. I'm not sure why you want to tangle with the only guy that can knock you out when you're sitting with...well, not much.

but if you feel the need to take him on because you're confident your TP is good, I'd rather just push the flop. That's 550 chips right there, you could definitely use those.

downtown 10-26-2005 12:01 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
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Your stack is healthy. I'm not sure why you want to tangle with the only guy that can knock you out when you're sitting with...well, not much.

but if you feel the need to take him on because you're confident your TP is good, I'd rather just push the flop. That's 550 chips right there, you could definitely use those.

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He is absolutely and literally on any 2 cards, and I in no way feel a need to tangle with him. I do however feel my TP is very likely good.

Thus, the post.

kyro 10-26-2005 12:03 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
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Your stack is healthy. I'm not sure why you want to tangle with the only guy that can knock you out when you're sitting with...well, not much.

but if you feel the need to take him on because you're confident your TP is good, I'd rather just push the flop. That's 550 chips right there, you could definitely use those.

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He is absolutely and literally on any 2 cards, and I in no way feel a need to tangle with him. I do however feel my TP is very likely good.

Thus, the post.

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Alright, fine. But look at the board. 2 diamonds. 3 to a straight. There is a very good chance he is drawing very live on you. I'd rather just get my chips in the middle while I still hold top pair, rather than wait and call down bets and then turn over our cards at the end and find out he has hit on me. This isn't the hand or the board to be letting him bet for you.

tigerite 10-26-2005 12:09 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
I'd fold the flop because your reverse implied odds are all shot to pieces.. if he bet less I would call to see the turn but 275 is just too pricey for me.

kyro 10-26-2005 12:28 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
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I'd fold the flop because your reverse implied odds are all shot to pieces.. if he bet less I would call to see the turn but 275 is just too pricey for me.

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In actuality (is that even a word?) I would fold the flop too, but pushing is much better than calling here. It would have to be a MUCH smaller bet to get me to call, and even then if I'm playing I'm probably raising it. That is one UGLY board.

tigerite 10-26-2005 12:30 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
I agree, FWIW, but I don't see the need to get in a tangle with him, so just let him have it in this case

fnord_too 10-26-2005 01:05 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
Against a super lag, when I have a decent hand, I just call down. If he spikes a better hand on the river (which happens a lot more than I like), I just eat it.

bigt439 10-26-2005 01:34 PM

Re: 55: Need a post-flop line against this Ultra-LAG
 
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Against a super lag, when I have a decent hand, I just call down. If he spikes a better hand on the river (which happens a lot more than I like), I just eat it.

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This sounds like pretty bad advice. No offense. It's sometimes applicable, but should be far from general advice.


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