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lapoker17 12-27-2005 09:23 PM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
I called because i thought it unlikely he had a fush or a jack in his hand, and that the chances that he had AK - or even 99/TT were greater than the chances he had AAA or KKK. And the guy was kind of a psycho and had made overbet bluffs before and didn't seem the type to be "setting me up" earlier. I don't know. He had AKhh and flipped it up like it was the nuts - so he was worse than i thought.

Mad Genius1 12-27-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
River push as a bluff? Value bet? What would you put him on to push the river? I can't really see a worse hand paying you off but at the same time he probably isn't folding a jack. It doesn't look like he has the flush with the big spades out, so I think check-call is fine, and I'd expect you to have the best hand here most of the time anyway.

lapoker17 12-27-2005 09:44 PM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
Push river to get him to lay down AAA or KKK.

12-27-2005 10:38 PM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
Well like I said in my post, the majority of live players are a damn joke. It is truly incredible.

I figured the only way you could have possibly won this hand was if he had AK and played like the worst poker player in the world.

It is truly hilarious.

nh nevertheless, but only you could have made that call live, cause that is an obvious fold IMO.

unbelieveable

lapoker17 12-27-2005 10:41 PM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
yeah dude - i didn't want credit for the call. these guys are brutal. just wanted to know what people thought about turn raise or river push.

12-27-2005 10:51 PM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
hey nice read is all i can really say, nh

creedofhubris 12-28-2005 04:03 AM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
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And the guy was kind of a psycho and had made overbet bluffs before

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Well, if you'd mentioned that, then I woulda said check/call river instead of fold.

Black Peter 12-28-2005 04:08 AM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
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And the guy was kind of a psycho and had made overbet bluffs before

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Well, if you'd mentioned that, then I woulda said check/call river instead of fold.

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Yeah, please give us all the info up front.

Jason Strasser 12-28-2005 04:26 AM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
The key here for me is the range in which the villain is value betting. Does it include top 2? top set? Much easier to justify this type of call if you can rule out non straight hands he would never value.

lapoker17 12-28-2005 10:04 AM

Re: Live QQ Hand
 
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Yeah, please give us all the info up front.

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WTF? Who are you?


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