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glen 10-18-2005 10:00 AM

ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
"Fiona Apple is really, really good. . . "

discuss. . .

arod15 10-18-2005 10:11 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
YSSCKY

4_2_it 10-18-2005 10:21 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
At what? Did she stop by last night? If so, we need a full report.

ScottyP431 10-18-2005 10:47 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
1, Duh. A gorgeus girl who can actually sing/write her own songs that are all euphamisms. Shes basically like Chopin plus Gina Gershon and Quite a discovery you've made here Copernicus.
2,Tidal> Extraordinary Machine, you should go back and check it out
3, Joss stone= poor mans fiona apple

JoshuaD 10-18-2005 10:55 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
She's awesome.

Try to find the version of Extraordinary Machines that was leaked a few months before it was released. It's 10x better than the album version.

glen 10-18-2005 11:00 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
"1, Duh. A gorgeus girl who can actually sing/write her own songs that are all euphamisms. Shes basically like Chopin plus Gina Gershon and Quite a discovery you've made here Copernicus."

All her songs are euphemisms? oooooooooooooook.

2,Tidal> Extraordinary Machine, you should go back and check it out

Maybe I have already heard it and disagree.

ScottyP431 10-18-2005 11:04 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
"ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook"
"maybe i have heard it and disagree"


ahaha, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, maybe your a d-bag who gets a little to upset when someone calls them Copernicus. And yes, nearly all her songs are euphamisms. Seriously, you said something insanely obvious, what kind of response were you expecting?

glen 10-18-2005 11:10 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
can you please give me 3 examples of songs from extraordinary machine that euph"e"misms and explain why you think they are? ty. . .

ScottyP431 10-18-2005 11:18 AM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
No problem



I certainly haven't been shopping for any new shoes
And I certainly haven't been spreading myself around
I still only travel by foot and by foot it's a slow climb
But I'm good at being uncomfortable so I can't stop changing all the time

I noticed that my opponent is always on the go
And won't go slow so as not to focus and I notice
He'll hitch a ride with any guide as long as they go fast from whence he came
But he's no good at being uncomfortable so he can't stop staying exactly the same

Here, "shoe" and "ride" actually mean sex.


Conversation once colored by esteem
Became dialogue as a diagram of a play for pun (blood?)
Took a vacation, my palate got clean
Now I could taste your agenda
While you're spitting your cud

And it doesn't make sense
I should fall for the kingcraft of a meritless crown
No, it doesn't seem right
To take information
Given at close range
For the gag
And the bind
And the ammunition round

This is not about love
'Cause I am not in love
In fact I can't stop falling out

it would appear "vacation", "kingcraft" and "palate" here are also not referring to their literal meaning.

And it's dangerous work
Trying to get to you too
And I think if I didn't have to
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill myself doing it
Maybe I might not glisten so much for you

Glisten for you? come on man, you cant be this thick can you?

miajag81 10-18-2005 12:01 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
I liked her 10 years ago and everyone thought I was weird. Now when I say I like her it's like "oh, cool, she's great!" Tidal is one of my favorite albums.

CollinEstes 10-18-2005 12:02 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
I don't know why I can't, maybe I am a bigot, but I have never liked or purchased an album by a female singer.

kyro 10-18-2005 12:03 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
I dunno about her music, but the music video for "Criminal" is the hottest music video of all time.

miajag81 10-18-2005 12:05 PM

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the music video for "Criminal" is the hottest music video of all time.

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Yes.

pearljam 10-18-2005 12:06 PM

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I don't know why I can't, maybe I am a bigot, but I have never liked or purchased an album by a female singer.

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ditto, I dont think im a bigot, I just dont think they sound as good for some reason

TheMainEvent 10-18-2005 12:07 PM

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I liked her 10 years ago and everyone thought I was weird. Now when I say I like her it's like "oh, cool, she's great!" Tidal is one of my favorite albums.

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I think that whole speech she made at whatever award show it was cost her a lot of credibility.

Clarkmeister 10-18-2005 12:12 PM

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She's awesome.

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samjjones 10-18-2005 12:14 PM

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http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/thi...thout_pics.gif

samjjones 10-18-2005 12:15 PM

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FYI...this is a GREAT avatar. The only thing better would be if it closed in on Pettitte's face as well as he mouths "Holy Sh*t!"

27offsuit 10-18-2005 12:35 PM

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http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/thi...thout_pics.gif

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Right! http://www.encerradosafuera.com.ar/musica/fiona3.jpg

shadow29 10-18-2005 12:36 PM

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I don't know why I can't, maybe I am a bigot, but I have never liked or purchased an album by a female singer.

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Maybe you're not a bigot, but you're certainly missing out on some awesome music.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but whatever.

Here's my list of female singers that are in my iTunes:

Diana Krall
Emmylou Harris
Fiona Apple
Joni Mitchell
Nancy Griffith
Rickie Lee Jones
Sarah MacLachlan
Tori Amos
Tracy Chapman
Vienna Teng

I can see not liking some of these, but IMO Mitchell and Jones are essential.

Aloysius 10-18-2005 12:43 PM

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She's awesome.

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Her producer, Jon Brion, is also awesome. He produced her other albums and the "first version" of Extraordinary Machines. He's also produced / collaborated with Kanye West (Late Registration), Aimee Mann, David Byrne, as well as the soundtracks for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and all of PT Anderson's movies. Dude is sick talented. Check out his credits-

Jon Brion Producer Credits

His solo album, Meaningless, is really good (heavily Beatles influenced) and for LA folk, he performs a weekly show at Largo (on Fairfax, across the street from Canter's) which is an awesome show.

Ulysses 10-18-2005 12:57 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
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"Fiona Apple is really, really good. . . "

discuss. . .

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Back then did you think Tidal being that awesome was just a fluke?

Duffman 10-18-2005 01:01 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
I like her cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

It might actually be Tori Amos.. if it is then I guess I' m a dick. If not then I guess Fiona Apple is pretty cool.

glen 10-18-2005 01:15 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
first all of, this is what you originally said: "A gorgeus girl who can actually sing/write her own songs that are all euphamisms." even though she uses some euphemisms, all her songs are not euphemisms - that is just a lyrical device and does not alone justify why she is good, as you had made it appear. I have only listened to the whole album twice so I have yet to break it down like you have, even though you probably just read a review and quoted it, but anyways. . .

I was not offended by your Copernicus term. I found it arrogant and unnecessary, but anyways. You said "Seriously, you said something insanely obvious, what kind of response were you expecting?" I expected positive ones, like most have turned out to be, as well as negative ones, like "You should seriously consider killing yourself." So, I guess it's not all that obvious. And please, for the love of God, learn how to spell and if you are going to try to successfully attack someone's intellgence, I strongly suggets that you learn to spell and that you learn that "your" is not "you're," and when you make this 3rd grade mistake you put yourself in the bottom 10th percentile. . .

glen 10-18-2005 01:29 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
That is tori amos, but fiona does a good cover of Across the Universe by the Beatles. . .

glen 10-18-2005 01:36 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
"Back then did you think Tidal being that awesome was just a fluke?"

It was not so much that I thought it was a fluke, but this is what I thought when that album came out: Criminal was a good song; Shadowboxer was okay; she was very young; there were rumors she didn't write all the songs or music or both, and I still have no idea if there was any truth to that; she made a ridiculous speech about turkeys that made her remind me of the most annoying girls at my college.

It wasn't when When the Pawn came out that I started to believe. . .

-Skeme- 10-18-2005 01:52 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . .
 
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She's awesome.

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fsuplayer 10-18-2005 01:58 PM

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the music video for "Criminal" is the hottest music video of all time.

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Yes.

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i might have to give shakira the nod for this title, but 'Criminal' is a close second.

fsuplayer 10-18-2005 02:18 PM

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the music video for "Criminal" is the hottest music video of all time.

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Yes.

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i might have to give shakira the nod for this title, but 'Criminal' is a close second.

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i just watched the video again, and I changed my mind. wow she's sexy.

ScottyP431 10-18-2005 05:09 PM

Re: ten years ago I never thought I would be saying this in 2005. . . .
 
Dude you are a douche bag. You put yourself in the absolute moron category when you argue with someone over a CD you have only heard twice, and about an artist where you have no idea what you are talking about. All her songs being euphAmisms does justify why she is good, becuase it makes her songs hot. It also makes her song writing a few steps above "hit me baby one more time". And yes, I just quoted a review, I read a review of the album in Rolling Stone that said you are a douche bag, good one. Seriously, you are the ultimate form of douche, when you lose an argument becuase it turns out you were to dense to realize something, you say the other person probably just read the fact that you are wrong somwhere else. You were wrong, you got owned. It happens. Move on. I strongly suggest you learn to from a coherent non runo-on sentence without 4 and's, one which began said sentence, before you criticize someone's spelling Mr. English teacher.

10-18-2005 05:16 PM

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I liked her 10 years ago and everyone thought I was weird. Now when I say I like her it's like "oh, cool, she's great!" Tidal is one of my favorite albums.

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I think that whole speech she made at whatever award show it was cost her a lot of credibility.

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That's too bad. I thought her speech was from the heart and I repsected her for pointing out the phoniness of celebrity and idolizing all the insipid Hollywood idiots.
She's a great singer and I loved her when she came out, I haven't heard any of her recent music.

uw_madtown 10-18-2005 05:30 PM

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She's awesome.

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Her producer, Jon Brion, is also awesome. He produced her other albums and the "first version" of Extraordinary Machines. He's also produced / collaborated with Kanye West (Late Registration), Aimee Mann, David Byrne, as well as the soundtracks for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and all of PT Anderson's movies. Dude is sick talented. Check out his credits-

Jon Brion Producer Credits

His solo album, Meaningless, is really good (heavily Beatles influenced) and for LA folk, he performs a weekly show at Largo (on Fairfax, across the street from Canter's) which is an awesome show.

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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Jon Brion

10-18-2005 05:41 PM

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You're right.


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