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12-12-2005 06:47 PM

$60 million dollar winner take all tourney
 
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uhm...wow...I wonder how they're funding this? Who gets in? Just a 1 day tourney...that's going to make it either a very quickly escalating structure, or not too much play.

discuss...

Kyo Souma II 12-12-2005 07:13 PM

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I doubt that it's even money that this happens.

Kyo Souma II 12-12-2005 07:14 PM

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The MANSIONPOKER.NET POKERDOME SERIES is slated to debut on Sunday, May 15, 2006 (11:00 PM-1:00AM local) on FSN owned-and-affiliated regional sports networks, and continues for 43 consecutive weeks. The series' multi-faceted tournaments originate inside a remarkable, high-tech soon-to-be-built arena called the "Pokerdome."

Awesome.

-kyo

henrikrh 12-12-2005 07:28 PM

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Sounds like it is invite only... boo!

augie00 12-12-2005 08:13 PM

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I say they do a freezeout format, 5/10 blinds. That will be quite a test of skill. Too bad it would take months.

edit: but just imagine those stacks of red!!!! holy cow!

tylerdurden 12-12-2005 11:15 PM

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"Pokerdome."

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Six man enter, one man leave.

bge 12-13-2005 01:55 AM

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Ivey is confirmed to play and they are trying to get Hachem (numbers are in Australian dollars). That could seriously dent the bankroll if sponsors aren't paying a lot of it.

12-13-2005 02:51 AM

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How much could a sponsor seriously pay? You would think they would be better off spending less $$ for a super bowl commercial.

12-13-2005 06:04 AM

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With a AUD $13.3m entry fee, that's the equivalent of over USD $10m.

As far as I know, to date the largest entry fee for a tournament was $400K in the first series of Poker Superstars.

This seems awfully pricey, even for sponsors.

A_Junglen 12-13-2005 07:44 AM

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This sounds so crazy...

henrikrh 12-13-2005 12:35 PM

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I'm sure top names won't have toruble finding sponsors or crazy rich fans to back them. Heck, we might even see them e-baying some of their action.

danzasmack 12-13-2005 03:00 PM

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too much money. There will be such collusion.

mj12 12-13-2005 04:30 PM

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they can sponsor me, im available to play

sng-sam 12-13-2005 05:55 PM

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too much money. There will be such collusion.

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ding ding ding ! We Have a winner!

These guys have great TV image. But, behind the scenes they are still sharks. They are always looking for an advantage. There are lots of rumors of Doyle and Chip being less than honorable if the stakes are high enough. All doubters can read "The Professor,The Banker, and the Suicide King"

Straight Flushes,

SAM

Jonny5 12-13-2005 06:55 PM

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As far as I know, to date the largest entry fee for a tournament was $400K in the first series of Poker Superstars.



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This wasn't even a true representation of the actual buy in as LAST place in this tourney got somewhere around $300,000. They made it out as if they were risking 400,000 of their own money, but the most they could lose was 100K. All of those players I bet have lost 100K in a day before.

12-13-2005 08:50 PM

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The whole sponsoring thing is stupid. So are the satellites for amateurs.

The poker pros are only going to play their best if it's their own 10 million on the line. I want to see these pros sweat it out where things count. That'll show who can play at the highest level.

Kyle Stark 12-15-2005 12:42 PM

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The whole sponsoring thing is stupid. So are the satellites for amateurs.

The poker pros are only going to play their best if it's their own 10 million on the line. I want to see these pros sweat it out where things count. That'll show who can play at the highest level.

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NOBODY is going to risk 10 mil of their own that way.

Think about how many sponsers it would take to raise 10 million...the poker players would be like nascar drivers...

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/9329/toddcar5pa.jpg

12-15-2005 01:00 PM

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The whole sponsoring thing is stupid. So are the satellites for amateurs.

The poker pros are only going to play their best if it's their own 10 million on the line. I want to see these pros sweat it out where things count. That'll show who can play at the highest level.

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NOBODY is going to risk 10 mil of their own that way.

Think about how many sponsers it would take to raise 10 million...the poker players would be like nascar drivers...


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Nobody? I think Phil Ivey would.

But that's the point. Why have a 60 mil SNG, if the money doesn't really matter to the players? It's like a freeroll. Yes, it matters in a sense that this might be more money than some pros see in a life time, but it won't make them sweat. Can you imagine how exhilirating it would be if you could watch a pro get stuck 10 million in a live game? =)

Kyle Stark 12-15-2005 01:19 PM

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The MANSIONPOKER.NET POKERDOME SERIES is slated to debut on Sunday, May 15, 2006 (11:00 PM-1:00AM local) on FSN owned-and-affiliated regional sports networks, and continues for 43 consecutive weeks. The series' multi-faceted tournaments originate inside a remarkable, high-tech soon-to-be-built arena called the "Pokerdome."

Awesome.

-kyo

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http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8...erdome28nw.jpg

(oh come on...any pauly shore reference is going to be funny)

Kyle Stark 12-15-2005 01:39 PM

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The whole sponsoring thing is stupid. So are the satellites for amateurs.

The poker pros are only going to play their best if it's their own 10 million on the line. I want to see these pros sweat it out where things count. That'll show who can play at the highest level.

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NOBODY is going to risk 10 mil of their own that way.

Think about how many sponsers it would take to raise 10 million...the poker players would be like nascar drivers...


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Nobody? I think Phil Ivey would.

But that's the point. Why have a 60 mil SNG, if the money doesn't really matter to the players? It's like a freeroll. Yes, it matters in a sense that this might be more money than some pros see in a life time, but it won't make them sweat. Can you imagine how exhilirating it would be if you could watch a pro get stuck 10 million in a live game? =)

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That's the difference between real pro's. Amatures that make a big final table are "just glad to be there" and after the tournament is over a couple of months later it finally its them what they had the potential to accomplish. Trust me, the pros will know whats at stake, they won't take a 60 million dollar first prize with a "nothing to lose" mentality.

ALSO, FSN is going to have a 15 second shot clock too.

And yes, all 100 million is being supplied by "a new offshore online gambling company" which is run by an "Indonesian tobacco family".

trevorwc 12-15-2005 01:49 PM

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If it is being sponsored by a big online startup - why so much money? Do they not think that they could get Ivey, Brunson, etc to show up for a paltry 20 million dollar first prize?

Kyle Stark 12-15-2005 01:59 PM

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If it is being sponsored by a big online startup - why so much money? Do they not think that they could get Ivey, Brunson, etc to show up for a paltry 20 million dollar first prize?

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I don't know man, they're building a dome, putting up 100 million...they're going all out for this...I think they don't realize how big poker already is because it sounds like they're trying to jump the bandwagon before poker gets "really big"....lol a little too late.

12-15-2005 02:09 PM

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No but mentally, it's a huge difference from losing your own 10 million dollar buy in, and losing freeroll. Players using their own money will play much differently than with a freeroll, no matter how good they are.

Kyle Stark 12-15-2005 03:05 PM

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Okay, I found out everything I could and compiled it at my blog. This isn't spam, I have no affiliate links or anything on it, it's just easier for me to link across all the poker forums this way.

Stark Naked Poker

yaaaflow 12-15-2005 04:02 PM

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Wow your blog is just a tabloid of random online poker [censored]. Now I've seen it all.

Reporting on people losing money?

edit: I suppose it is kinda funny, further negative comments removed.

Kyle Stark 12-15-2005 04:21 PM

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Wow your blog is just a tabloid of random online poker [censored]. Now I've seen it all.

Reporting on people losing money?

edit: I suppose it is kinda funny, further negative comments removed.

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I don't report on people losing money unless it's funny.

Like the Prahlad one, the funny part was the hit and run by IKnockuout and nobody at the time knew who that was.

Prahlad goes through monster swings, this is common knowledge so him losing a certian amount in a session is not newsworthy cause he'll get it all back then some.


The jennicide was newsworthy because a "friend" donked off 1/3 of her bankroll and she didn't even bat an eye.


I *THINK* I reported on all the rumors going around that gus hansen was busted (lol and hit by a bus), but that was definately the buzz of the week and I didn't confirm it, I just reported was was being said at places like here and FCP and what not.

DVaut1 12-15-2005 05:43 PM

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too much money. There will be such collusion.

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Obviously, this will be the first ever tournament field that agreed to chop the entire prize pool before the cards hit the felt. Maybe they'll leave a few hundred grand on the table for shits and giggles.

grjr 12-15-2005 06:13 PM

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If it is being sponsored by a big online startup - why so much money? Do they not think that they could get Ivey, Brunson, etc to show up for a paltry 20 million dollar first prize?

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I don't know man, they're building a dome, putting up 100 million...they're going all out for this...I think they don't realize how big poker already is because it sounds like they're trying to jump the bandwagon before poker gets "really big"....lol a little too late.

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From what I've read the $60 million tourney will not be played in the Pokerdome. It will be played in a casino in Australia. Apparently Todd Brunson and Jen Harmon(?) will be in it with Ivey and Hachem.

The Pokerdome will be in Las Vegas and will host their weekly shows (which will feature the 15 second clock--I don't think that will apply to the mega-event). The Pokerdome itself will not be a dome really it will be a room with a single table surrounded by one-way glass. Presumably so the audience can see the players' hole cards without being able to signal anything to the players.

If the players can't see or hear the audience, however, I don't see the advantage of being in the same room with them. Just put them in another room like it's always been done.

So far it's being reported that the players in the mega-event are buying in for $10 million apiece. However, it's also reported that Mansionpoker is paying $100 million over the 3 years into this series. If so, where is that $100 million going? Personally, I don't see these high profile players running off to Australia to play in a $10m sit and go. If they wanted to do that they could play at Brunson's house and not pay taxes on the winnings.

Some of that $100m from Mansionpoker has to be going into the prize funds of these mega-events. I wonder when we'll find out how much.

ChuckyB 12-16-2005 07:56 PM

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If this is a one-day, 10-hour event, it's a freakin' joke.

Six players with deep enough stacks to play for 10 days to declare a winner...then we're talking.

henrikrh 12-17-2005 05:55 AM

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If this is a one-day, 10-hour event, it's a freakin' joke.

Six players with deep enough stacks to play for 10 days to declare a winner...then we're talking.

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It sitll has to be poker though, if the stacks are 30k and the blinds start at 1/2 like you seem to want then the first 2 days will be [censored]. It should be done like a regular deepstack tournament. Sure there will be a decent sized element of luck in it as well then, but that's the game that's being played.

12-19-2005 12:23 PM

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This even will never happen.


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