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Guthrie 11-26-2005 03:08 PM

Stealing blinds
 
The AleoMagus strategy post says, in late stages:

On button, aim to steal about 25% of blinds with hands like A7s-A9s, KTs-KJs.

I don't get hands like those anywhere near 25% of the time on the button, more like 5 or 10%, and when I do get one and attempt to steal, I get called or re-raised quite often.

Any stack bigger than mine, however, seems to attempt to steal my blinds about 75% of the time from both cutoff and the button in late stages, and I have a hard time calling with hands like 72, T5, Q4, so I just bleed chips until I'm forced to go all-in with the first decent hand I catch.

What am I missing?

bawcerelli 11-26-2005 03:10 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
sngpt

zambonidrivr 11-26-2005 03:38 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
just shove it in

Guthrie 11-26-2005 03:43 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
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sngpt

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Is this some sort of code which answers my question?

Guthrie 11-26-2005 03:44 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
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just shove it in

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Okay, next time I'm on the button with 72o, I'll just shove it in. Maybe someone should update the strategy post to include this brilliant new addition.

tigerite 11-26-2005 03:50 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
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sngpt

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Is this some sort of code which answers my question?

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Uppercut 11-26-2005 03:57 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
If a bigger stack is always raising your blinds from late position, you need to take a decent hand and reraise him all-in, not merely call and hope you hit the flop. That usually slows 'em down.

Guthrie 11-26-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
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If a bigger stack is always raising your blinds from late position, you need to take a decent hand and reraise him all-in, not merely call and hope you hit the flop. That usually slows 'em down.

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I get this, but after three or four orbits of junk hands waiting for anything decent, I'm nearly blinded out.

The AleoMagus strategy gives a very limited range of hands attempt to steal with in late stages and says to do it 25% of the time. I get nowhere near this many hands on the button, but lots of other people are raising from the button nearly every time. Clearly these people aren't using the AleoMagus strategy since they can't possibly be getting that range of hands 75% of the time while I get them 5%. They seem to be raising far too much and I seem to be raising far to little. I'm just trying to resolve the difference.

11-26-2005 04:37 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
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just shove it in

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Okay, next time I'm on the button with 72o, I'll just shove it in. Maybe someone should update the strategy post to include this brilliant new addition.

[/ QUOTE ]There are times when pushing 72 is right. Pushing more often is better than waiting for a premium hand and getting blinded out in the process. I do think the short answer to your question is: push more often.

11-26-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Stealing blinds
 
Push more often - and choose who you are pushing againt. Dont want to do it when the shorties are on the blinds, they are short already and you will likely be giving them odds to call. The mid-level stacks tend to be the most likely to fold, not wanting to risk dropping to low (even if they have a half-way decent hand).


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