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UATrewqaz 11-21-2005 11:00 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
So home game tourney, I bet, a tight guy reraises me all in, and I fold my TT face up and since he's a friend he shows me the KK.

So when is the ESPN camera crew getting here?

11-22-2005 12:23 AM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
On a side note, does anybody know why Freddy Deeb thought the best hand he ever played was when he misread Phil Ivey and sucked out on his set of sevens?

whiskeytown 11-22-2005 07:32 AM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
yes, cause we all know the only way to win a tourney as prescribed by Harrington on Holdem and TPFAP is to call with the 2nd best hand and suck out...

If the hand would have been the difference between 2 mil. and nothing, it'd have been my fav. hand too.

rookie.

RB

11-22-2005 12:02 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
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Also, I think it's kind of pathetic that the best hand Annie Duke ever played involved folding tens to an all-in reraise. Congrats lady... congrats.

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Considering the stakes involved and the player she was against, I don't think it's pathetic at all. She would of been knocked out if she called, instead she made a good laydown and kept herself in position to win.

zipo 11-22-2005 12:40 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
>>Duke said she didn't want to say what the tell was.<<

So Annie Duke can read fossilman like a book.

Say, where did annie finish in the last couple of WSOP's?

jetsg4 11-22-2005 12:41 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
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She would of been knocked out if she called

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you heard it here first.. 10's ALWAYS lose to Kings

11-22-2005 12:46 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
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you heard it here first.. 10's ALWAYS lose to Kings


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ok, 80% she would have been knocked out smartass

UATrewqaz 11-22-2005 12:49 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
I believe the original point is that folding TT preflop to a huge all in reraise is no big thing in the upper teir of the poker world.

Sure to your average TV watching, Party Poker MTT donk it seems like "OMFGZ!!!! She folded TT??? WOW! SHE'S AWESOME!!!"


but like I said, to a pro this laydown ain't crap. Remember one of the WSOP Circuit event final tables earlier this year when that guy from N.J. laid down QQ preflop (correctly I might add).

Jordan Olsommer 11-22-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
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I believe the original point is that folding TT preflop to a huge all in reraise is no big thing in the upper teir of the poker world.

Sure to your average TV watching, Party Poker MTT donk it seems like "OMFGZ!!!! She folded TT??? WOW! SHE'S AWESOME!!!"

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Again, the reason she was proud of that laydown was because of the price she was being laid by the pot - if Raymer's range is {AA-JJ, AK} she's getting the right price to call for all of her chips; if his range is {AA-JJ}, she is not.

Knowing when your tens are beat is pretty standard in the "upper tier of the poker world". Ignoring the size of the pot, however, is not.

11-22-2005 01:02 PM

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 
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I believe the original point is that folding TT preflop to a huge all in reraise is no big thing in the upper teir of the poker world.


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The point was that this was the greatest hand she ever played. Any semi decent player can make that laydown, true, but by not playing she gained the confidence needed to win the TOC against a table full of sharks. That QQ laydown was impressive though, I must say.


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