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jason_t 12-23-2005 11:28 PM

10/20 Q9s
 
Loose passives everywhere.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: I am MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, I call, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, I call.

Turn: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>

brettbrettr 12-23-2005 11:54 PM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
Is there something about UTG that makes you think your 9's are good here?

Pre-flop is debatable, but you know when its ok to limp with this hand in this spot and I'm not going to question it.

jason_t 12-23-2005 11:57 PM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
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Is there something about UTG that makes you think your 9's are good here?

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I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

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Pre-flop is debatable, but you know when its ok to limp with this hand in this spot and I'm not going to question it.

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Good boy. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Bremen 12-23-2005 11:58 PM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
Is there a point to raising? Against loose-passives I expect to be ahead almost never. I also expect them to rarely fold. You also have about 1/3rd equity (not counting the Q's as outs) so you're not really getting value out of it...

brettbrettr 12-24-2005 12:05 AM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
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I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

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Don't drawing hands like customers? I don't get why you're trying to shut people out here.

dave44 12-24-2005 12:12 AM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
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I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

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Don't drawing hands like customers? I don't get why you're trying to shut people out here.

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Me neither. When UTG wakes up on this board I doubt your fold equity is enough to compensate for the extra bet you put in. Plus you keep the third guy from calling with hands that don't compromise your outs at all which is a decent portion of a bet in your pocket.

jason_t 12-24-2005 12:38 AM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
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I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

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Don't drawing hands like customers? I don't get why you're trying to shut people out here.

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I have twenty outs to an almost sure win. That gives me ~40% equity in this pot.

blumpkin22 12-24-2005 01:21 AM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
The [censored] Inessa! That bitch!

BigEndian 12-24-2005 01:47 AM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
Looks ok to me as long as you don't go crazy and bet the river if you whiff.

- Jim

CardSharpCook 12-24-2005 02:15 AM

Re: 10/20 Q9s
 
There is a benifit to having him bet into on the river. Having 2 bets go in when you have 40% eq is not nearly as good as having 2 bets go in when you have 100% eq. The way you play it is fine though.


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