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zaphod 12-17-2005 08:44 PM

KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
Just wanted to check my reasoning here. Sometimes it is hard to judge your action when you know what happened later in the hand..

New at the table. No reads yet other than that it is saturday evening in europe.

Stacks:

BB: 205
Hero: 100
Button:55

Party Poker (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
1 fold, Hero bets 4, button calls SB folds and BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks.
Hero bets [$9].
Button raises [$18].
BB raises [$60].

Hero?

beavens 12-17-2005 08:44 PM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
hero folds this pretty easily.

12-17-2005 09:31 PM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
With no reads on any of the players, I'd lay it down (with pain in my heart). You might be up against AT here, but he's representing TT with that big reraise. I'm even thinking QQ is also a possibility where he might be trying to win this pot right now as he might figure you for JJ.

But do the smart thing and lay it down.

wdeadwyler 12-17-2005 09:35 PM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
If BB has a set he sucks at poker, he coulda gotten your stack here with bet/3bet. Make a note and move on.

Oh yea, easy fold.

zaphod 12-17-2005 10:30 PM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
Yes, i folded but thought about it a little bit. The donk factor seems to be a bit higher on saturdays so that made me think for a while, but i still thougt that it was an easy fold to. But somethimes I start questioning myself after such hands.

I post the result now since i realise that the hand does not look to interesting..

BB had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

And yes i realise that i am just slightly favorite(winning about 47%) over these hands. So the fold looks clear.

boondockst 12-18-2005 07:31 AM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
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And yes i realise that i am just slightly favorite(winning about 47%) over these hands. So the fold looks clear.

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Are you serious??? You play NL100 and you say something like this...It's a 3-way pot and you're 47% to win....Heads-up there's probably enough dead money out there already to make pushing +EV.

Is this that advanced of a concept or is this forum just not what it used to be?

scrapperdog 12-18-2005 07:38 AM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
Folding 1 pair to a re-raise and a large 3 bet raise is correct.

boondockst 12-18-2005 07:42 AM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3...iantimo9cn.jpg

zaphod 12-18-2005 08:17 AM

Re: KK- flop action,NL 100 6 max
 
[ QUOTE ]
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And yes i realise that i am just slightly favorite(winning about 47%) over these hands. So the fold looks clear.

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Are you serious??? You play NL100 and you say something like this...It's a 3-way pot and you're 47% to win....Heads-up there's probably enough dead money out there already to make pushing +EV.

Is this that advanced of a concept or is this forum just not what it used to be?

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[img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I was writing this quite lately, so maybee i was not expressing myself clearly. Off course it is an easy push given the opponents cards. But given all the action it is hard to find any handrange that are more favorable for me than this. And I will frequently be far behind.
Button could have anything, but BB's reraise screams set. And then my hand does not look that good. I hope i play better than i write...


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