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JoeU 06-14-2004 09:16 PM

Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Since either no one wants to start this, or CrackerZack and Scrub are still playing No-Limit, I'll be the first to share my thoughts on this groundbreaking gathering (now it sounds important).

I won't bore everyone with all the highlights, I'd like all the participants to add their 2 cents to the thread. JTG will not be available for comment until next week, since he is moving to Barstow as we speak.

Joe Tall, JTG51 and myself left CT around 1:00 and get into AC around 6:00. It was basically a poker marathon from there. In the last 2 days, I met the following people (if I forget some names, I apologize, there were ALOT of people): Scrub, Luke, Brian 09...(sorry I forgot all the numbers and am too lazy to look), Homer, Dr Savage, AngelFish, AngelGuppy, Barry (you know you are 3rd on that list!), Bunky05...(see Brian), Mikey, Mike Gallo (good luck with the wedding, I tried to warn you!), Morgant, and Tyler Durden. Like I said, I'm sure I'm missing someone, and I apologize for doing that. Feel free to flame me for it. This is in addition to the people I have already met: MaxPower, CrackerZack, Mosch, Bottles, Jeffage, and of course JTG51 and Joe Tall. I probably missed some in this list too, but like I said, there were ALOT of people.

We were all able to enjoy dinner together Saturday night, and then a great home game in our room involving hold'em, omaha 8 or better, and crazy fox. The HOC game was pretty crazy. I got to straddle for the first time in my life, and played the hand blind to the river, calling a bet in the river. How dare Bottles call my preflop blind cap! I was obviously soon broke and on the rail. The line up for this game included JTG51, AngelFish, Morgant, Scrub, me, Homer, Dr Savage, Joe Tall, and Bottles. I think I can re-write the chapter on game selection now. I will let Homer tell his story about flopping the nuts in Omaha and what happened after.

Hopefully, Barry will post the pictures from dinner where we all can see them. Next time you fly and want to offer someone a ride, don't call Joe Tall, call me! We appreciated the phone call when you got home....2 hours before us!

It was nice to place so many names with so many faces. Hopefully we can all make the trek back to AC very soon.

Joe

Barry 06-14-2004 09:38 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
AF, AG and I also had a great time meeting new friends and getting to see many old ones again too.

Once I find all the accesories to AF's new camera, I'll upload the pics to my PC. If anyone knows how to post them here either let me know or PM me their e-mail so I can send them to you.

My only regret of the weekend is having a card dead session after dinner Saturday and losing my "chip lead" to Zack who played while drinking white russians in the AM and black russians after noon.

I love the games at the Borg' and it won't take much to get me to head back down there again and I'll be glad to fly anyone from the Boston area down there.

Best of luck to JTG as he begins the new chapter of his life in Barstow.

Joe Tall 06-14-2004 10:50 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I was totally card dead all weekend. And it may be the only time on earth that Barry and I were running bad at the same time.

I was down 40BBs in the 20 game late Saturday night, which poster Morgant witnessed first hand, then, after I the shorthanded game broke (Morg and I played 6 handed for 2+Hrs), I made a comback in a full game. Much help was in part of a couple of maniacs in the full-late-night game.

__________________________
Couple of hands versus a maniac:

Hand#1
Decent player open raises in EP, Manaic cold-calls (odd for him), I 3-bet out of the SB w/A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Decen player calls, Maniac now caps, we both call.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, Decent player checks, Maniac bets, I check-raise, they both fold. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


Hand#2
Everyone folds to the Maniac who raises, all fold to me in the BB w/7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I 3-bet, Maniac caps, I call.

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, maniac bets, I check-raise, maniac 3-bets, I call.

Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, Maniac bets, I check-raise, Maniac calls.

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, maniac calls and Mucks [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
______________________________________

The room was dirt cheap after all the player points were added. In one weekend I built up $46 bucks in points, not too shabby as the Borgata treats it's players well.

Great meeting all the ones I have not met such as Mikey, Luke, Dr. Savage and especially Morgant who I had the pleasure to play in the same game with for 8 hours or so.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Mike Gallo 06-14-2004 11:05 PM

Thanks for a great bachelor/retirement party
 
"Hey Mike. Dont sit in the $10 game today, the games are tougher today then normal"... a local says to me after I see him in the room. Having +20 members of an elite secret poker society will do that. Bush and other Yale graudates has Skull and Bones, we have Poobahs and Carpal Tunnels.

I do not have much to post about as far as poker goes. I played for 2 hours Saturday and the deck hit me in the face. I quit playing after I went up 40 big bets.:)

I enjoyed meeting everyone at dinner. I enjoyed talking to everyone and getting to know more about everyone. I can only learn so much about someone over an internet board.

One tidbit of information. JTG and I were the only left handed people there out of about 15. Strange how neither one of us consider ourselves "creative" players.

Oh, by the way,to the younguns I wasnt the second oldest poster there. Thanks for the compliment anyway.

I was the drunkest, although Zack came close [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]. He started to sober up, just as I hit my drinking stride.

Again thanks to everyone for a great time. Joe U, did you ever get a cigar? I think at the next gathering someone should volunteer to have a box made up.


My personal top 5 moments about the trip

5) 20 of us in Joe's (Joe Tall) room and Joe (Joe U) calling the poker room to get everyone on a list. In the background a listener could hear the splattering of chips and a poker game in the background.

4) My friend John telling me to stay away from the $10 games.


3) Chris (Bottlesof) asking me if I really retired from playing poker.


2) Jeff (JTG51) Joe (JoeTall) and Kevin (Mosch) discussing a hand in which Jeff hit his straight against Kevins flopped set. Jeffs comment on why he didnt go to war on the flop," I knew I would hit it on the turn and I could check raise".

1)Getting drunk at dinner

Mike Gallo 06-14-2004 11:15 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Mike Gallo (good luck with the wedding, I tried to warn you!),

Its all good. Thanks for diagnosing my elbow. Did you ever get a cigar? Next time we meet I will bring you a Cohiba .

Joe Tall 06-14-2004 11:21 PM

Re: Thanks for a great bachelor/retirement party
 
discussing a hand in which Jeff hit his straight against Kevins flopped set. Jeffs comment on why he didnt go to war on the flop," I knew I would hit it on the turn and I could check raise".

I'm amazed on how good JTG is, truely amazed.

Great seeing you again, Mike! Have fun in Mexico!

Peace,
Joe Tall

Mike Gallo 06-14-2004 11:29 PM

Re: Thanks for a great bachelor/retirement party
 
Great seeing you again, Mike! Have fun in Mexico!

Thanks. I know how painful it must have felt sitting in that juicy 20 game and getting card stuck.

I told you Fred G wouldnt make it. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Barry 06-15-2004 12:06 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I only had that 1 bad night dropping 20 BB; I was up 43 BB for the weekend as a whole. I wasn't complaining...

As I told you the Borg' has the softest 20/40 game that I have played in. Cripes Zack killed it drunk.

Barry 06-15-2004 12:08 AM

Re: Thanks for a great bachelor/retirement party
 
Hey, I'm a lefty too!

Mike Gallo 06-15-2004 12:15 AM

Re: Thanks for a great bachelor/retirement party
 
Hey, I'm a lefty too!

Nice, your the oldest and a lefty. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BottlesOf 06-15-2004 12:31 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
This trip really was something. It was wild putting so many names to faces and learning more about the people I interact with so impersonally on these boards. As usual, everyone was really friendly, and it felt like I was hanging out with old friends rather than meeting some of you for the first time.

Here are some observations/mini anecdotes about the trip tied together in no cohesive way:

Joe Tall is kind of a girlie man. He went to bed at 11PM on Friday night and then the next day took a nap in the afternoon. He ordered a salad for dinner Friday night, and I saw him eating yogurt/fruit on two separate occasions.

It was really a trip meeting Mike Gallo (MG in NJ) who has helped me so much in my development as a poker player. Mike could not have been less like I envisioned him. His posts on this board are very "elder statesman like," and he comes off as a wise, quiet and introsepctive guy. In reality, Mike is very funny, outgoing (as Homer would say, "loud") and was all about having fun and making sure everyone else was too. Congrats on the upcoming wedding, and please come back here and visit.

Some how my table at dinner (Brian07..., Homer, morgant, Dr. Savage, scrub and myself) ended up with more money than was required for the bill. How often does that happen? Especially with money grubbing, bonus whoring 2+2ers? They also persuaded me to add the "Of" back to my name. Anyway we decided to take our extra $8 and put it on the longest shot in the casino. We didn't exactly figure out how to do that and decided to put it on one spin of the roulette wheel. We decided to put it on "4," and if you can't figure out why 4, then you need to throw yourself away. Some people from the other dinner tables wanted to invest money of their own, so a few more people chipped in $2 and we ended up with close to $20, and off we went.

Imagine a dozen or so 2+2ers, and not just any 2+2ers we've got some of the big guns here, wandering around a maze of slot machinies desparately in search of a roulette wheel. It was an experience I never thought I'd be a part of. We put our money on 4, some start chanting "E-V-E-V-E-V" and wait for the ball to stop. Flop comes...BRICK, 25 or something, and we lose. No one seems to care, and we move on.

I go to JoeTall, JTG, JoeU and maybe someone else's room for the above mentioned home game. It took about 15 minutes for 2+2's best and brightest (I am of course excluding myself from this group) to figure out how to arrange the beds and table to accomidate 8/9. "Don't worry, we're engineers" says JTG after it looks like JoeTall might drop a queen size bed.

The game gets going but more 2+2ers show up than the room can handle. CrackerZack and mosch decide to play a $40 heads up sng on the floor next to us. They take some of the green chips we aren't using for the home table game but find they don't have enough chips. No worries, Zack (I think) pulls out a few fistfulls of Borgata $25 chips, which are of the same color, and the two begin.

The two games were hysterical, and I'll let someone with a better memory pick up from there.

I ended up about +$300 for the trip playing 6/12 and 10/20, but for me, the highlight was meeting and hanging out with the 2+2 gang. I hope another get together of this magnitude happens soon.

All the best,

Bottles


p.s. I was the youngest 2+2er clocking in at 21 years, 10 months [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Barry 06-15-2004 12:53 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
p.s. I was the youngest 2+2er clocking in at 21 years, 10 months



[/ QUOTE ]

So long as you exclude Angel Guppy at 5 months [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mason Malmuth 06-15-2004 03:42 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Hi Joe:

The next time a group like this gets together in Las Vegas make sure I know and I'll try to join everyone for dinner one night.

best wishes,
Mason

JoeU 06-15-2004 07:03 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
Did you ever get a cigar?

[/ QUOTE ]

No I didn't. Now I have a reason to go back to AC! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


Joe

JoeU 06-15-2004 07:10 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
I go to JoeTall, JTG, JoeU and maybe someone else's room for the above mentioned home game.

[/ QUOTE ]

It was MaxPower's room too.

[ QUOTE ]
As usual, everyone was really friendly, and it felt like I was hanging out with old friends rather than meeting some of you for the first time.

[/ QUOTE ]

I second this statement. This was a great trip.

Joe

Joe Tall 06-15-2004 07:10 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Joe Tall is kind of a girlie man. He went to bed at 11PM on Friday night and then the next day took a nap in the afternoon. He ordered a salad for dinner Friday night, and I saw him eating yogurt/fruit on two separate occasions.

Ok young one. First of all, it was after mindnight not 11, someday when you get a real job you may see 6AM and NOT be in a casino, and when you KNOW you HAVE to sleep on the floor the next night, you have to cash a good sleep in the night prior. In addition, I did take a nap as I decided the floor was not an option and played through the entire night Saturday from 9PM to 3PM Sunday, this is what all those natural vitamins from fruits and vegtables can do for you, UNSTUCK you. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Punk A$$,
JT

JoeU 06-15-2004 07:12 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Hi Mason,

I think it would be tough to get 20-something east coast 2+2ers out to Vegas at the same time. However, if you were coming out here, I'm positive that the 20-something 2+2ers would find a way to meet up like this again.

We're all just looking for a reason to have another trip like this! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Joe

Buckshot 06-15-2004 09:31 AM

BARGE, Baby!!!
 
In case you're not familiar with the -ARGE events, BARGE will be in full steam at the end of July/Beginning of August. Full details can be found here (not that I'm plugging any website):

http://www.conjelco.com/barge/

Mason, you're more than welcome to join the festivities. Oh, and bring David so we can show him how well 44 stands up to 77 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

~stephen

DrSavage 06-15-2004 09:55 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Nice trip.

My highlights include:

1) Meeting all you people.
2) Hearing Borgata floor announce "DrSavage, please come to the front desk".
3) Destroying the home game for 40 BB having no clue about what I'm doing.
4) Playing 10-20 having two people on my right limp every hand without looking.
Negative highlights included cellphones barely working in the Casino and not working in the poker room at all making meeting 2+2ers complicated, Borgata using blackjack cards for poker (wtf) and a trip home where i barely escaped totaling the car.

It was great meeting you all. Let's do it again.

Joe Tall 06-15-2004 11:30 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
"DrSavage, please come to the front desk".

This was good stuff. I overheard this and thought that it was strange, funny it was a page for you. Was it scrub that paged you?

Great meeting you,
Joe Tall

DrSavage 06-15-2004 11:31 AM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
"DrSavage, please come to the front desk".

This was good stuff. I overheard this and thought that it was strange, funny it was a page for you. Was it scrub that paged you?



[/ QUOTE ]

It was poor morgant who gave up trying to call me on my not-working-in-borgata cellphone.

MaxPower 06-15-2004 12:09 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 

Barry, on a BB basis I think I had the chip lead. I won 71 BB in the 10/20 and 8 BB in the 20/40. That might even beat Zack if you don't include craps [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I'd like to say it was some brilliant poker, but I just had a lot of good hands that held up.

I lost $200 in the no limit game (most of it to Scrub and Zack). I have no clue what I'm doing at NL.

This being my first time playing 20/40, I was shocked at how soft the game was. Other than you there was not a player in the game who worried me.

Barry 06-15-2004 12:51 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
This being my first time playing 20/40, I was shocked at how soft the game was. Other than you there was not a player in the game who worried me.

[/ QUOTE ]

That goes for me too. You played well and took a few bets from me when you open raised from the button with AJ and I 3-bet with AT.

Tyler Durden 06-15-2004 12:55 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I had a great time also. Dinner was a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to seeing how the pictures turned out.

It was cool to meet all of you and Barry, good to see you again.

Luke 06-15-2004 01:20 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I had a great time meeting everybody, from the small guns to the "big guns" as Bottles calls them.

For me, it was the first time meeting most of you and I found it really interesting to put a face to some of the names and online personalities of this forum that I read so religiously.

Everybody was cool and friendly. I wish I had a chance to play with more of you but at least I got to run my AA into MaxPower's AK [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

If there's ever a gathering like this again, I hope to be able to make it.

Luke

brian0729 06-15-2004 01:56 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Hi all,

Much like the others have already said this was a great time had by me and most others I think. Dinner was great and the picture was a very cool finishing touch. A couple of highlights for me was meeting JTG, hearing mosch tell someone who had called his cell phone that he was busy and "in the middle of a SNG right now". Of course he was playing HU on the floor aganist Zack on the 29th floor of the Borgata and finally Homer flopping the nuts in an Omaha hand, laying it down for the table to see and then having JT raise his flop bet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

It was great to meet you all. I look forward to the next time and finally GL in Cali JTG.

BottlesOf 06-15-2004 02:06 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Homer flopping the nuts in an Omaha hand, laying it down for the table to see and then having JT raise his flop bet.

For the record, I then coldcalled JT's raise, with a better hand [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Joe Tall 06-15-2004 02:57 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
For the record, I then coldcalled JT's raise, with a better hand

I really wish you 3-bet. That would have been the funniest hand of all. Once DrSavage called Homer's bet I'd figured I'd get some money in and knock out a higher set if need be.

Didn't work. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

However, Homer missing all those bets on the turn made up for it.

Peace,
Joe Tall

CrackerZack 06-15-2004 07:15 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
What a weekend. I was a shell of a man on sunday, and worse on monday. The ridiculousness of my hangover didn't hit until about 7:30 on monday when we were eating dinner with Scrub and his princeton crew and on my second trip to the buffet, i felt like i was gonna faint.

maxpower did beat me in the BB game. the 50 he won the first night in about 4 hours certainly would do that. Its hard for me to figure out my total as it all gets fuzzy. that's the fun of it.

My highlights:
1) Chip stacking contest with Barry, he won in height, but my foundation had some nice green for an overalll win.

2) Chip stacking round two where i was promptly destroyed. But the order of action went me, Barry, Tyler so you couldn't really beat that.

3) Dinner was great and came together pretty easily considering we had 20 or so, and no reservation in the only place were going to in AC.

4) The room SnGs where there were 20 green borgata chips in play long with 30 of JoeTall's set. Too bad I lost both.

5) Heading back to the poker room from the SnGs, seeing the craps table, and cementing my place as the greatest craps player alive. Mosch is close behind, but I am still the greatest.

6) mini NL game. Good god. Where to begin. Flopping sets is fun. Losing 900 pots is probably less fun if you can remember it, luckily I don't. "Guy! easy guy! guy! easy guy!" -morgant

Sunday I was barely alive. Sorry I didn't stop to say good bye to the remaining people. I won only about 45 BBs in limit, and about 60 BBs in NL I guess.

It was great meeting everyone, especially the new people, morgant, tyler, savage, princeton crew, IRCers Lupin and Wakko, AngelGuppy, and I think that covers it, although i'm sure i forgot someone. As usual, I had a tremendous time, did -EV things, and lucked out doing them. Count me in for the next one.

Zack

Barry 06-15-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I've got the picture on the PC, now how the heck do I post it here?

Barry 06-15-2004 08:40 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
3) Dinner was great and came together pretty easily considering we had 20 or so, and no reservation in the only place were going to in AC.

[/ QUOTE ]

Slipping the hostess $10 helped a little [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Homer 06-15-2004 08:53 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
You have to find an online service that will let you upload and hotlink (I think that's the term) images. Hopefully someone will post a link for a good one in this thread.

-- Homer

Homer 06-15-2004 08:55 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Here is a list of possible sites. I'm not sure which one is best.

-- Homer

Barry 06-15-2004 09:24 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I give up. Try this link

http://www.applepics.com/1/userfiles/iBarry_1.jpg

Joe Tall 06-15-2004 09:31 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
The file is too large to put it in a thread. But F-me, now I'm totally pissed that Joe U and I missed that photo, it came out great!!

Well done Barry!

Peace,
Joe Tall

brian0729 06-15-2004 09:49 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Wow! Great pic Barry. I dont know where we would have put you Joe. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Joe Tall 06-15-2004 09:54 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I think I'd bump morgant down so there'd be 14k posts in the the last row alone. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But don't tell him that. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Peace,
Joe Tall

Gamblor 06-15-2004 10:09 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
the most important question of all for those of us who weren't there:

Who is who?

Homer 06-15-2004 10:19 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
Back row - morgant, Homer, JTG

Next row down - Angel Fish, Barry, BottlesOf, brian0729

Next row down - scrub, Luke, MaxPower

Next row down - scrub's friend, scrub's friend, Cracker Zack's gf, mosch, Tyler Durden (sitting on rail)

Next row down - Cracker Zack, Dr. Savage, Mike Gallo (MG in NJ)

...sorry for anyone's name I got wrong or didn't know.

-- Homer

EDIT - ...and as I mentioned to JTG just before the picture was taken, I have no idea how this is possible, but I somehow manage to look even less attractive in pictures than in real life.

Joe Tall 06-15-2004 10:21 PM

Re: Official 2+2 Atlantic City Trip Report Thread
 
I'll do my best on the Who's Who:

Left to right, front to back.

1. CrackerZack, DrSavage, MG in NJ, Tyler Durgen (rail)
2. lurker (scrub's friend), lurker (scrub's friend), Vespa holding future poster AngelGoldFish, Mosch
3. scrub, Luke, MaxPower
4. AngelFish, Barry, BottlesOf, Brian0729
5. morgant, Homer, JTG51

Missing: Joe U. and Joe Tall

Peace,
Joe Tall


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