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ScottTheFish 02-20-2004 12:44 PM

Hand from my weekly home game
 
Hi, been a while since I posted a hand, probably boring, but here goes anyway. I won't comment on my reasoning or give results til later.

.5/1 weekly home game, 8 handed. I know all the players pretty well, they range from very bad LAGs to weak tighties, with a couple of semi-solid players.

Villain in this hand I consider semi-solid, he's read WLLH and somewhat follows it, although he gets too aggressive with marginal hands post flop. Has an annoying habit of table coaching too.

Anyway he open raises from MP, I 3 bet on the button with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. LAG BB cold calls 2, which means he has 2 cards and 2 chips, villain calls.

3 to a flop of: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, villain bets...I raise, BB folds, villain calls.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain checks, I check.

River: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks, I bet, Villain check-raises. I 3-bet, he calls.

Fire away.

ScottTheFish 02-20-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
bump?

josie_wales 02-20-2004 04:21 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
Villain opened as first in with KJo and calls your 3-bet.

Hopes to improve his backdoor straight on the turn and doesn't, but its checked through so he gets a free card on the river.

Its K and he figures he has the best hand, thus the check raise, but once you 3-bet he worries bout that J kicker.

jw

k000k 02-20-2004 04:23 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
I woulda dumped AK before the river.. He bet into you after 3-betting preflop.. His turn check might have been an attempt at a check raise.. There's no straights or higher possible, so QQ would be the ultimate hand here.. I guess he hit a set with pocket pairs.

ScottTheFish 02-20-2004 04:31 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
Kook I know this guy to be pretty aggressive, he would bet the flop after raising PF 99% of the time, even after being 3-bet. Doesn't mean he hit.

JW, your read is a little off. Hint: on the turn he whiffed on a check-raise [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (I didn't know that at the time of course). Anyway what do you think of my play here? You play it any differently?

aas 02-20-2004 04:32 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villain in this hand I consider semi-solid, he's read WLLH and somewhat follows it,

[/ QUOTE ]

Considering this, after his flop play, I'll put him on AQ or KQ. He missed a check-raise on the turn. On the river he check raised you with...well...AQ or KQ. I think check-raising with AQ would be a mistake because of your preflop play and the K showing on the river. So I think you were beaten with KQ.

I would have still played it the exact same way you did.

Please don't take my reasoning too serious, since I am still a beginner (less than 6000 hands) and I post to learn.

Critiques welcome.

aas.

ScottTheFish 02-20-2004 04:40 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
He indeed had AQ and missed the turn checkraise. Good read. After the hand I thought I got a little lucky, as really the most likely hand i should have put him on was KQ after he checkraised me on the river, and I should just called.

Pretty ballsy to check-raise the river when an overcard to your pair hits, but like I said he gets a little too agressive postflop sometimes.

aas 02-20-2004 04:48 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
[ QUOTE ]
and I should just called.


[/ QUOTE ]

When?

If you meant "he should have just called the river", I agree with you.

aas.

ScottTheFish 02-20-2004 04:51 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
I meant I should have just called the check raise on the river

k000k 02-20-2004 05:38 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
>Pretty ballsy to check-raise the river when an
>overcard to your pair hits, but like I said he
>gets a little too agressive postflop sometimes.

Hell ya it is, you had an advantage too, since you know him and how he plays.. If I had no read on the guy I woulda folded after the flop. Good thing you had that edge, oh, and nice catch there at the last second too!


Trix 02-20-2004 08:11 PM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
If you think that he holds a weak hand or might fold a pair lower than Qs, or has AK too then bet the turn aswell.

StellarWind 02-21-2004 02:21 AM

Re: Hand from my weekly home game
 
Based on your description of him as over-aggressive on the flop I would suspect him of betting a second pair when he didn't reraise. I might bet the turn in an attempt to drop him. It's hard for him if he fears both an overpair and AQ.

If he's the type of player that would raise-or-fold most any pair when first in, disregard the previous remark.

When I read the account of the river, 'missed turn CR' immediately popped into my mind. The other poster's KQ idea is good too. Don't reraise.


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