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0 doubt 12-28-2005 03:57 PM

Posting at work. Day 2
 
Day two for my pathetic attempt to move from .50/1 -> 1/2 party. I have no idea why I keep getting creamed when I move up even the smallest of levels. Typical results are for me are 5BB/100 in .5/1 and 1/2 is something like -3BB/100. Its rediculous. Its definitely not the money either as I can bankroll this easily. I'm just trying to figure out what is wrong with my game. Here's another hand example.

SB is LAG (loose aggressive, right?)

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

crunchy1 12-28-2005 04:01 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
I have no idea why I keep getting creamed when I move up even the smallest of levels. Typical results are for me are 5BB/100 in .5/1 and 1/2 is something like -3BB/100.

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How many hands have you played at $.5/1? How many hands at $1/2?

Munga30 12-28-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
Lags bet scare cards, hoping you'll fold. Sometimes they have hands, too, reinforcing their lagginess. Calling here is not the reason why you keep getting creamed.

12-28-2005 04:16 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
Day two for my pathetic attempt to move from .50/1 -&gt; 1/2 party. I have no idea why I keep getting creamed when I move up even the smallest of levels. Typical results are for me are 5BB/100 in .5/1 and 1/2 is something like -3BB/100. Its rediculous. Its definitely not the money either as I can bankroll this easily. I'm just trying to figure out what is wrong with my game. Here's another hand example.

SB is LAG (loose aggressive, right?)

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="red"> </font> .

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

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Don't feel so bad... Here's a recent KK hand at the 2/4 level...

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Kh, Kc.
1 fold, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) 3c, 4c, Qs (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Js (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 7d (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

SB (LPP) shows a freakin' 47o for two pair. Nice one, eh?

0 doubt 12-28-2005 04:18 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
.5/1 -&gt; ~10K
1/2 -&gt; ~2.5K

macdaddy991 12-28-2005 04:24 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
.5/1 -&gt; ~10K
1/2 -&gt; ~2.5K

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No sample size, play 10k hands at 1/2 before you even think about getting a line on your play.

12-28-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
Kibby, you should post other hands. This one is pretty standard. You are getting 9-1 to call on the river and he is doing this without a flush/ace here more than 1 in 9 times.

0 doubt 12-28-2005 04:44 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
Fair enough, will do.

ackid 12-28-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
looks like the flush got there. I cry and call.

MrEngenic 12-28-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
Post these in the micros

W. Deranged 12-28-2005 08:10 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
Post these in the micros

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Yeah. The players in Micros will be more knowledgeable on exactly the challenges of moving from .5/1 to 1/2. And we don't want to take good posts away from that forum!

So I'm going to move this.

kiemo 12-28-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
I ran 4bb/100 over 30k hands at .5/1.

When I moved to 1/2 I started off -2BB for my first 2k hands.

Quite a shock it was after winning for so long and so easily.

Your sample size is terribly small and you will adjust.

If not you move down and work on not being a nut peddler.

12-28-2005 08:26 PM

Re: Posting at work. Day 2
 
I think part of moving up in levels is you're nervous, even if you're bankrolled okay, just because it's for more money, and it's outside of your comfort zone, because you used to be beating the previous level and now you have to start over. I just moved from .5/1 to 1/2 (not on Party though) and there's definitely a difference but it's manageable. Mostly I've started always raising if first in, stopped playing weak suited aces unless a couple other people are in first, stopped coldcalling preflop (either fold or 3bet), and started being a little more aggressive with my pocket pairs and also in general. I know this doesn't really respond to your post but I am trying to make the adjustment too. Anyway. On your hand I feel like you're probably losing to a pair of aces or maybe the flush got there. Either way I'd call it down. Good luck!

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