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Pocket77s 12-27-2005 01:42 PM

Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
Bodog.com .50/1 NL Hold'em

Hero $50
Villian $45
Button $25

Hero dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises $3 from MP1, 1 fold, Button calls, Villan calls from BB. UTG+1 folds. Pot size $10

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villian checks, Hero bets $10, Button folds, Villian calls: Pot size $30

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Villian checks, Hero bets $15, Villian calls.

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Villian bets $15, Hero calls,

Bodog.com NL Hold'em .50/1

Hero $20
Villian $34
MP3 $80
SB $130
BB $$60

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, UTG3 calls, Hero calls, 1 folds, MP3 calls, 1fold, SB completes, BB checks, Pot size: $5

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] SB checks, BBchecks, Villian checks, Hero bets $5, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB folds, Villian calls, Pot size: $15

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Villian checks, Hero pushes all in for $14, Villian calls,

If I miss-played any of these two hands at any point let me know.

12-27-2005 01:50 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
Hand 1:

Preflop: Fine.
Flop: Fine.
Turn: I dont like the small bet. Bet near the pot or check it down playing it WA/WB. I would pot it because he could be on a draw as often as he has Jx or 9x. 78s, QT, KT, T8s, and a pair of clubs are all possiblities. If the board was monotone and more like J623, then Id probably check behind.
River: Tough one. You arent folding, its either whether to raise or call. His awakening when the flush card comes would probably freeze me, and Id flat call.

Hand 2:

Preflop: Raise it, but a call is fine.
Flop: Fine.
Turn: Fine.

beavens 12-27-2005 01:51 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
first hand: pf you need to raise at least 4xBB + 1xBB for every limper.

second hand: raise pf and shove it in on the flop.

Pocket77s 12-27-2005 01:56 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
Question for you, you are in a rather loose game, nine handed, you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB and 6 people limp with the SB completing. What do you do and why?
You have about $50 dollars in front of you in a NL game, blinds .50/1.

Pocket77s 12-27-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
Thanks... I wasn't sure if I should have raised with AQo in MP1.

beavens 12-27-2005 02:00 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
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Question for you, you are in a rather loose game, nine handed, you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB and 6 people limp with the SB completing. What do you do and why?
You have about $50 dollars in front of you in a NL game, blinds .50/1.

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i'm raising - we've got a good hand and we need to isolate the field of play.

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Thanks... I wasn't sure if I should have raised with AQo in MP1.

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in your post you have it as AQs, but i'd raise with AQo too.

Maulik 12-27-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
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first hand: pf you need to raise at least 4xBB + 1xBB for every limper.


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Pocket77s 12-27-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
oops sorry, yes it was AQs.

TheRegulat0r 12-27-2005 02:04 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Question for you, you are in a rather loose game, nine handed, you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB and 6 people limp with the SB completing. What do you do and why?
You have about $50 dollars in front of you in a NL game, blinds .50/1.

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Raise to $8-$10, whichever you think will win the pot right there. If you get called, flop top pair, push, and stack a guy who limps with and can't fold TT or JJ. If you don't flop top pair... play poker.

Maulik 12-27-2005 02:04 PM

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second hand: raise pf and shove it in on the flop.

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I'd call and look to get it in on the turn. we want a Jack to come along for the ride.

Maulik 12-27-2005 02:05 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Question for you, you are in a rather loose game, nine handed, you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB and 6 people limp with the SB completing. What do you do and why?
You have about $50 dollars in front of you in a NL game, blinds .50/1.

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Raise to $10.

beavens 12-27-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
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second hand: raise pf and shove it in on the flop.

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I'd call and look to get it in on the turn. we want a Jack to come along for the ride.

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well, hero was the one who bet.

and if we bet any amount here we're pretty much committed regardless since we're so short. you saying make a PSB and then shove as to get more $ in the pot?

Maulik 12-27-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
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second hand: raise pf and shove it in on the flop.

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I'd call and look to get it in on the turn. we want a Jack to come along for the ride.

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well, hero was the one who bet.

and if we bet any amount here we're pretty much committed regardless since we're so short. you saying make a PSB and then shove as to get more $ in the pot?

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my bad $20... that's small


HERO: buy in for $100.

Pocket77s 12-27-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
Play poker?? Can you eloborate? Here is another scenario, same circumstances, rather loose game with loose players. Opponents will chase often to the river except you are in the SB with AJs with eight players in. Do you still like to raise with AJ?

Pocket77s 12-27-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
Will do.

Maulik 12-27-2005 02:15 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Play poker?? Can you eloborate? Here is another scenario, same circumstances, rather loose game with loose players. Opponents will chase often to the river except you are in the SB with AJs with eight players in. Do you still like to raise with AJ?

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Raise the same, but don't make a continuation bet unless you flop a huge hand or tptk. You'll be happy to pick up all the limped money.

12-27-2005 02:25 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
If I bet preflop (AQs) should I bet the turn in either
case (hit or not)?

beavens 12-27-2005 02:35 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
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If I bet preflop (AQs) should I bet the turn in either
case (hit or not)?

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do you mean bet the flop or fire another barrel on the turn?

both depend on the number of callers, your position, your image, stack sizes and the type of villians in the hand.

Pocket77s 12-27-2005 02:42 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
I will ususally fire a pot sized bet if I miss and If I get called, then I would seriously think before firing another one.

TheWorstPlayer 12-27-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Give me wisdom oh wise ones...
 
push turn in hand 1. hand 2 is fine.


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