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x2ski 12-26-2005 01:46 AM

Spewing w/ TT?
 
UTG+1 is a 44/12/1.28 who I have played with many times before... Just your typical LAG, although pushing maniacal status, who never seems to go broke and plays quite often.

MP2 is a 60/7.5/.5 over a very small sample, but probably pretty accurate stats given the way he played this hand (no, he wasn't the winner)

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, UTG+1 caps, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (19.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero weighs his options for a few seconds and raises

12-26-2005 01:53 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
So 35 beats you and AA/jj/QK seems very unlikly. Your not concerned with MP2 who seems he desperatly just wants to showdown for as cheap as possible. I can see myself playing the same way. I think your going to win more often than not. No?

TripleH68 12-26-2005 02:13 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
Easy raise in my book.

Set over set or two pair seem most likely.

shant 12-26-2005 02:46 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
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Easy raise in my book.

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Should we cap if he 3-booms?

x2ski 12-26-2005 02:57 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
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Easy raise in my book.

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Should we cap if he 3-booms?

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yeah, should we?

TripleH68 12-26-2005 03:02 AM

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Easy raise in my book.

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Should we cap if he 3-booms?

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yeah, should we?

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We lose to AA, JJ, 53, K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Why not cap?

W. Deranged 12-26-2005 03:03 AM

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Easy raise in my book.

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Should we cap if he 3-booms?

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What the hell could he have?

KQ and JJ are basically out of the question. So we're losing to the wheel and AA.

I cap that [censored].

12-26-2005 03:22 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
GRUNCH

I raise it to the rooftops. The two couldn't have helped anyones hand so the fact that he raises leads me to think he was slowplaying a two pair on the flop and we have that covered.

12-26-2005 03:40 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
Jam it and then jam it some more if you can

PokerSparky 12-26-2005 04:07 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
I wimp out and just call if he three bets the river. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

12-26-2005 07:16 AM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
His turn cap practically guarantees us he doesn't have JJ or KQ (a tiny, tiny chance he has KQ of spades). AA extremely unlikely since in that case he slowplayed both preflop and flop. So actually, the only realistic hand that beats us is 35, but come on, it's like searching for reasons not to pump the most out of him.

tolbiny 12-28-2005 07:47 PM

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Easy raise in my book.

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Should we cap if he 3-booms?

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This is a pretty easy cap as long as MP is still in. Getting 2-1 on your money is good. I probably wouldn't cap headsup, but it can't be more than a tiny mistake at worst.

jskills 12-29-2005 02:17 PM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
I don't stop betting. I expect to see him show me 44.

x2ski 12-29-2005 04:52 PM

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I don't stop betting. I expect to see him show me 44.

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Wow, I thought this thread died days ago.

I just called his 3-boom, was showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and MHING.

I dunno, but to me his turn cap and river lead-out gave me the feeling he didn't care what anyone else was holding. To be honest, I felt pretty stupid raising the river.

asdf1234 12-29-2005 05:04 PM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
If he is indeed a borderline maniac, this is an easy raise and probably cap. While you may be beaten, it's unlikely and this is a great spot to get him to dump off a bunch of chips to you.

TheHammer24 12-29-2005 05:08 PM

Re: Spewing w/ TT?
 
Against a LAG this is an auto cap IMO


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