QQ Limp re-raise from SB
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Hero ($48.05) BB ($20.10) UTG ($13.15) UTG+1 ($19.35) MP1 ($23.80) MP2 ($25) CO ($13.85) Button ($4.30) Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.1</font>, BB calls $3. Flop: ($8.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. Turn: ($8.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5. River: ($18.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39.05 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $11.10 (All-In). Final Pot: $68.25 |
Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
you are going to miss a lot of value by playing like this...
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Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
bet the flop
pot the turn |
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I usually raise PF big, playing from the SB. OOP for the rest of the hand is ugly. Any reads? I usually don't do this unless I'm sure villan will raise a good amount here.
The L/RR and then check on the flop is very weird. I usually lead flop after showing so much aggression PF. Perhaps if preflop it went hero raise/ villan reraise/hero call, then maybe a check on the flop would have been ok. I understand it is a WA/WB situation, but I think I like betting this flop. I think betting flop/pushing turn is the best IMO. Villan has less than a PSB by the turn (if we bet the flop that is). |
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter Hero ($48.05) BB ($20.10) UTG ($13.15) UTG+1 ($19.35) MP1 ($23.80) MP2 ($25) CO ($13.85) Button ($4.30) Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.1</font>, BB calls $3. Flop: ($8.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. Turn: ($8.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5. River: ($18.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39.05 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $11.10 (All-In). Final Pot: $68.25 [/ QUOTE ] I have some questions for you. 1. Why are you limping preflop? 2. Why are you not leading the flop? 3. Since you haven't bet the flop, why are you leading the turn? 4. Why are you pushing the river? |
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4. Why are you pushing the river?
He's only putting villain in for the last $11 |
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4. Why are you pushing the river? He's only putting villain in for the last $11 [/ QUOTE ] I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here. |
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[ QUOTE ] 4. Why are you pushing the river? He's only putting villain in for the last $11 [/ QUOTE ] I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here. [/ QUOTE ] Me too, I always make a normal bet, relative to pot size. Is that what you do as well? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4. Why are you pushing the river? He's only putting villain in for the last $11 [/ QUOTE ] I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here. [/ QUOTE ] Me too, I always make a normal bet, relative to pot size. Is that what you do as well? [/ QUOTE ] I'd have played the entire hand differently, but on this river as OP played it, I'd bet just over half of villain's remaining stack and hope for a call or push. |
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i dont agree with you limp. People who limp with strong hands like QQ, KK, AA as SB take a higher risk of getting beat with crap. I would of raised preflop, and if he has 9x, he will most likly fold, butat this level the donkey will probably thinks your bluffing and will call. If he raises pre or post flop, i would call and put him all in post flop.
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nh. I like it.
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This whole hand looks fine to me.
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This whole hand looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Help me see why. |
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I like the limp raise, a lot of people will raise a SB veeeery light in the BB, this helps build a bit of a pot which is very good in blind battles because people are far more likely to take one pair pretty far. Personally I would rather bet the flop and check the turn, but I think the line he took is a very good way to represent a missed big A and almost any pair will look you up here.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4. Why are you pushing the river? He's only putting villain in for the last $11 [/ QUOTE ] I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here. [/ QUOTE ] Me too, I always make a normal bet, relative to pot size. Is that what you do as well? [/ QUOTE ] I'd have played the entire hand differently, but on this river as OP played it, I'd bet just over half of villain's remaining stack and hope for a call or push. [/ QUOTE ] Dude, that's terrible. Look at the pot. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4. Why are you pushing the river? He's only putting villain in for the last $11 [/ QUOTE ] I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here. [/ QUOTE ] Me too, I always make a normal bet, relative to pot size. Is that what you do as well? [/ QUOTE ] I'd have played the entire hand differently, but on this river as OP played it, I'd bet just over half of villain's remaining stack and hope for a call or push. [/ QUOTE ] Dude, that's terrible. Look at the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I guess I don't see what range of hands BB is gonna call a 2/3s pot bet with, but clearly I need to refine my thinking about how this hand played out. |
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Looks good. Against some opponents I bet flop, against some I don't. Were you planning to c/r flop or c/c?
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I might bet less on the river or check the river and induce a bluff rather than bet out. I think most of the time with a 2/3 pot bet your getting called by a hand that beats you here like a 9 or a flush. You beat 77,88,TT,JJ which you may get calls from but other than that there isn't much out there. He may bet with more hands than he will call with here, like betting the scare flush, or just trying to take the pot away. Of course if he pushes your going to have to put in reads you have to work in your decision.
On the flop I like both a check or a bet depends on what my opponents style was like. If you are checking you really want him to bet. You get more calls here on the flop with cards to come than on the river. Preflop I don't think there is anything wrong with limping. If you think it is likely he will raise I like the play. Turn looks fine. |
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