Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

Not sure how well receieved these posts have been in the past, but if you come accross my old name while reviewing old hands or feel like taking the time to look at stats, I'd really appreciate the help.

2 things I've already discovered and began work on:

1. Not enough blind steal + defense

2. Too aggressive on the flop. Finding spots to relax on the flop and either a.) call down more, b.) c/r or raise the turn more or c.) fold.

#1 was more of a problem at 5/10 than it was at 3/6, but anyway. If you find something more then that's awesome.

Totally appreciate the help guys.

Name again was "Wicked_Bad" 5/10 and 3/6 but more 3/6 than 5/10.

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

I probably would have popped you on the river here.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Tc As (two pair, eights and twos).
Hero has 9c Ks (two pair, nines and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.16 BB. </font>

You're in BB
MP is loose/passive from the stats I have. Though he's aggro here.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (2.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (4.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 8d 9s (two pair, tens and nines).
MP has 8h 6h (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP wins 6.16 BB. </font>

Why didn't you bet the flop?

You're in the BB against the same guy. I don't now why you're playing him like this.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (2.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (4.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 4.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3c 9d (one pair, nines).
CO has 9c Tc (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: CO wins 4.16 BB. </font>

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

leader hand 1 is confusing me a bit, you are hero right? why didn't you raise the flop or at least the turn?

oops I hijacked

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

W/o a read on villain it's tough to say what I was thinking. Raising the turn looks to be about right.

The other two hands are problems. I noticed myself doing the same thing last night w/ the same scenarios (facing limper in the BB HU... not often but occasionally happens).

Thanks for taking the time leader.

EDIT: Hand 3 makes a little more sense. It looks like I was planning to bet the river. Didn't pop the turn cuz I didn't want him to fold (guessing w/o knowing who villain actually is, but I can see myself playing it this way) and planned on betting the River which got a bit ugly and I abandoned ship planning to check/call at least. Looking at it now it seems silly to not bet the river.

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

in my db your vpip utg and utg+1 is only around 10%. looks like you could play a few more hands up front

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

How many hands is that from? This month alone (~26k) I'm 19 UTG and 14.5 from MP.

Sample of 85.6k shows 20 UTG and 15 MP. Is this normal from MP? PFR numbers per position are 19 and 14.

I don't like limping but should I add some limping hands to UTG possibly? Rarely have I ever observed it to be ideal to limp anything since most flops are 3-4 handed on avg., but I very well could be missing something strategy-wise. Most pots are raised as well.

Thoughts?

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

uhhh is that backwards?

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uhhh is that backwards?

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which part?

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uhhh is that backwards?

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"20 UTG and 15 MP. Is this normal from MP? PFR numbers per position are 19 and 14. "

i mean it's gotta be right?

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

Oh... yeah, my bad. those numbers are for MP and CO. Sorry.

UTG = 13.63/12.32

MP = 15.18/14.06

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

Hi JR-

I don't have time to go through too individual hands right now; I've only got ~ 270 on you anyway. PT says you're a 19.85/15 ... seems like you could get that a bit higher. In my particular sample, your WTSD is pretty bad (26%) but I know that's not enough hands to be statistically valid.

Here's a hand to chew on:

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed)

Preflop: Hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
One fold, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (1.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (1.66 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Standard?

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leader hand 1 is confusing me a bit, you are hero right? why didn't you raise the flop or at least the turn?

oops I hijacked

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I mix it up. I think raising the flop against an TAG is a mistake. The turn could go either way, IMO.

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 

Happy,

Thanks for taking the time.

Over-all I'm 22.07/15.65. WTSD is 34 over 85k.

I wouldn't call that hand standard. Really depends on villain. Don't know his stats or have his notes on hand. The way I played it I should probably fold to the three bet on the turn or just call down from the turn.

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Yeah, I'm not sure if you thought I was running over you that time or not. Let's just say my KTs poked big holes in your AT [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I don't feel like going into my DB right now, but remember playing you off hand. You were generally straight forward, and I was able to go after your blind a fair amount, as if you defended, you would be able to fold to either to flop or turn bets

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KDawg,

I appreciate the comments. I've basically been playing a fit or fold strat. when it comes to defending blinds. There are times where I figure I can fold someone out w/ air but I don't attempt plays like that very often. If I had strong UI SD hands they were usally played stronger preflop anyway.

As far as the straightfoward play, could you elaborate further? Would you say my play was predictable?

Thanks.

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As far as the straightfoward play, could you elaborate further? Would you say my play was predictable?

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it wasn't as much predictable as it was run-of-the-mill TAG stuff, ya know. Granted, I normally wasn't sitting at your table, and I wouldn't neccessarily stay at your table long(unless there were a couple of 40 VPIPers there), but, I wasn't always running when you would sit(depending on seat position of course). Basically, I wasn't ever too worried about you isoing me when I'd be trying to iso bad players, at the same time, I wasn't jumping for joy when you would sit at the table(which I would when lancasterus sits down). Basically, I knew when to move you off of hands in either three way pots(to get into a better situation with a donk) or in HU pots. I will add though, that I haven't seen you anywhere near a table of mine in almost a month at the least, so, things might've changed