I\'m not good at poker.
 

I know this, and it's obvious to anyone who's ever read my posts.

Yet, from what I've read, I'm supposed to post what I think of other people's posted hands? Is this correct?

I mean, I want to do it, but at the same time I feel like an idiot saying what I think to a guy who's got 3500 posts and who plays $10/$20.

Should I only post on lower limit hands, or should I give my opinion on anything, or should I shut up and read and not post at all until I have a better idea of what's going on?

What's the guidelines here?

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Give your thoughts on as many hands as possible. Be sure to do this before reading the other replies. Be sure to be thorough on your analysis, and post not only what you would have done, but why. After, go through the other replies and see how your advice compares to what everyone else has to say. Don't be afraid to point it out if you think someone is wrong, even if they play 10/20 and have 3500 posts. Discussion is everything.

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Post away, it's what I do. Don't worry what people think of you. Just listen to all the suggestions and try to learn.

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Should I only post on lower limit hands, or should I give my opinion on anything, or should I shut up and read and not post at all until I have a better idea of what's going on?

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reply to anything... don't be shy. if someone thinks you're wrong he'll try to correct you, but maybe he's wrong too.

the only time someone shouldn't respond is in a fairly obvious hand where multiple people have said the same thing. like, "AK on A2249 river - value bet?"

i also wish everyone would ignore who posted the hand when they think about how it was played. like, if someone who everyone considers "good" plays a hand strangely, please don't call it brilliant if you don't think it is. say you don't get it, ask a question about it - maybe it is just retarded play, or maybe you'll learn why the odd play was actually correct.

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Post how yo would play the hand, share you thought process, read the responses, and learn. Think about why a guy who plays 10/20 and has 3500 posts is telling this or that line is best.

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for the most part i agree with everyone here in that you should post what you think is the correct play, to a certain extent.

what i despise however is when people post clearly bad advice with an authorative sounding tone. if you are not at least fairly confident in your adivce i dont see that it does anyone any service to be reading your thoughts, except perhaps youself.

basically, do post. but if you are yourself uncertain of the correct play at least begin with a quick line stating such.

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Ok, thanks. Hall of Shame, here I come!

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Hall of Shame

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brilliant. each shushusush digest should have a hall of shame for worst advice given during the recent period.

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i agree. worst advice should get a poll and an award at the end of every week. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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but if you are yourself uncertain of the correct play at least begin with a quick line stating such.

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Personally, I really don't like it when people begin their posts with qualifiers like "I suck at poker, so you probably shouldn't read this."

Just post what you think and why. As long as you don't get overly defensive when people point out why your thinking is flawed, everything is fine. If you still think you are right, just keep making arguments with logic as opposed to insults.

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Hall of Shame

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brilliant. each shushusush digest should have a hall of shame for worst advice given during the recent period.

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I think so also.

Hell, I'd be famous!

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Lots of good advice in this thread. I'll chime in (and be somewhat repetitive) by encouraging you to respond to hand posts and join in the discussion. You will learn so much more by participating than by lurking.

Sometimes the more experienced posters will post one-liners or near one liners "C/R flop and lead turn" without any elaboration. If you disagree, explain why you prefer an alternative approach, and perhaps guess at why the other poster may have suggested his line so you can address the presumed benefiots of that line to your approach. Sure, you may have totally missed an important consideration regarding the other line or an important defect inherent in your pproach, but by thinking it through well enough to write it out and respond intelligently, you will really start to understand what's going on in the hand much more quickly. And honestly, although it can sometimes be abrasive around here, if you make the effort to point out the relative pluses and minuses of various courses of action (and perhaps sprinkling a few "I believe" or "it seems to me" phrases in your response) you'll almost certainly get a good response from one or more others and not a "idiot" sort of response. All of a sudden . . . hey . . . you're involved in a pretty good discussion with some fellow good poker players.

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#1 rule of this site: Ignore the sarcasm and general [censored]. This includes new posters and veteran posters alike (many of the latter have a strange affinity for it, and I'm indicting myself in that). While someone's post count is sometimes a good indicator of their skill level, there are still many bad players with 1000 posts, and many good ones with 100.

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I havent seen any of the rude BS on this forum, I think all (most, anyway) are here to improve their game and not to be a d*ck. If anyone posted something like this in BBV, they'd get torn apart.

To address the OP, yes comment on hands, or at least read through all hand posts. If you're scared of posting, write down on a piece of paper what you would do same/different, EVERY DECISION. You need to write it down so that you commit to something, not thinking "you could call or raise here". See what the differences are between your line and the other posters. This should help.

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reply to anything... don't be shy. if someone thinks you're wrong he'll try to correct you, but maybe he's wrong too.

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brilliant. each shushusush digest should have a hall of shame for worst advice given during the recent period.

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"Yeah, that's right, heh heh, come reply to anything, newbies, we promise not to make fun of you...much..." (rubs hands together, twirls mustache)

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Give your thoughts on as many hands as possible. Be sure to do this before reading the other replies.

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I agree it's important to think through the hand and come up with a response before you read other people's replies.

However, I don't think it's important to post your response before reading other people's replies. In fact, I feel like threads are better when people read the previous responses before posting their own.

What's more valuable: someone's first reaction to a hand or their analysis after they've thought about all the issues that have been brought up and discussed so far?

It's the difference between a poll and a conversation. One of them is a more accurate picture of people's opinions and the other is a better system for group problem solving.

I agree with everything else you wrote, Scotty.

/mc

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Give your thoughts on as many hands as possible. Be sure to do this before reading the other replies.

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FFS, don't say Grunch everytime you do it though.

Mack