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12-21-2005 02:24 PM

Burnt Out
 
I was feeling a little burnt out of poker yestreday, particuarly the 1/2 limit i've been playing and consistently loosing at for whatever reason. I was playing online for almost 4 hours (longest session i've ever had), and was down about $20. I was about to stop playing, when I noticed there were two VERY juicing tables running (on Paradise Poker). They were something like $17 avg pot, 40% players per flop, ect. I sat at both, determined to find which would be a better game. They both looked good so I ended up two-tabling. Things started going my way (or at least not against me) and I made about $30, putting me up $10 on the day. THEN, after a couple rounds of cold cards, I get AK, flop an ace, turn a king, and end up losing with TopTwoPair to AA. That upset me a LOT. About 5 hands later on my other table, I get AKs. Again I flop an ace. And river another. After basically capping the river (I'm on tilt, yes) he turns over A10 for a boat.

So I started cursing at both tables, couldn't believe that happened to me. Anyways, I'm wondering what I should do now?

I've got about $900 (profits) from online poker play. Should I just cash it out and buy something? Problem is I can't think of anything I want to buy, and if I did I could use other money saved up to purchase it. Should I just stop playing for a while? Or maybe move up to 2/4, where playing actually sounds like fun.

Your thoughts?

bottomset 12-21-2005 02:26 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
how about taking a couple days off from poker

12-21-2005 02:29 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
Take a break. The answer will come to you.

(Hint: 2/4 isn't going to be any easier than 1/2, especially when you're underrolled and on a downswing.)

Fantam 12-21-2005 02:32 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
You must be a reasonably good player if you have made some money from playing.

I would try not to worry about bad beats, because you should know that you are always going to get some.

I would just take a break from playing for a short while. It sounds like you could do with a rest.

And if buying yourself a reward helps to make you feel better, I would go ahead. However, I hope you dont blow all of your bankroll ! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

12-21-2005 02:39 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
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move up to 2/4

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and breathe

12-21-2005 02:44 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
You should learn the difference between a bad beat and just having the second best hand. If you go on tilt everytime you lose a hand to a better hand I don't see how you managed to make the money you did. If it is just now starting to be a problem then you should get out while you are ahead. If you think the only way it will be fun is to move up levels then you should just probably stop playing online.

12-21-2005 03:27 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
Never said bad beat. It just sucked.

Vote4Pedro 12-21-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
A) Switch it up and do some 15BB Challenges, play some NL25, or play some Sit n Go Tournies

B) Take a break

12-21-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
what's a 15BB challenge?

car ramrod 12-21-2005 04:08 PM

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Or maybe move up to 2/4, where playing actually sounds like fun.


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not sure what this means. your AK can get beat at 2/4 also. I wouldn't suggest moving up just b/c you have been having a bad run at 1/2. Take a break and come back when you feel good.

Vote4Pedro 12-21-2005 04:13 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
I'm not finding the orginal post that contains all the rules, but basically...

You start with 15BB at any level(.25/.5=$7.5, .5/1=$15, 1/2=$30...), I prefer starting at .5/1. Everytime you reach 15BB for the next level, you move up. IF you drop below the 15BB mark, you can move down to the previous level, however, I like letting it ride. Play for 150 minutes(I think...), and post the results

12-21-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
limit i presume?

Vote4Pedro 12-21-2005 04:21 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
yea, give it a shot...

12-21-2005 04:54 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
I will later when I have the time. I just won a fun amount ($17) in NL 25! it was much more exciting than any 1/2 game i've played lately

kiemo 12-21-2005 05:35 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
Heres whats I did the first week of Decemeber when I was feeling a lot of burnout due to some huge variance swings.

I took a week off from playing my normal 1/2 full game and played some .04/.08 Omaha hi/lo on Stars.

Never really played Omaha h/l before and I sure looked the fool going to showdown betting with my 3 cards to the flush in my hand. Pair of fours???, but I have a flush, oh #$%#$%#!

Or going to showdown with my A2478 low (78 in my hand) against 5 opponents thinking I got the NUT low.

Fryguy 12-21-2005 05:38 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
bb challenges are fun (I might do one tonight), also something else that helps you let off steam is just bring like 1-2 dollars to a .02/.04 table (stars or whatever), and just raise/reraise everything. Pissing off other people is a great way to make yourself feel better. All the better if you get some ridiculous suckouts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

milesdyson 12-21-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
move down to 0.02/0.04 where playing is actually fun, and donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk around

12-21-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
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move down to 0.02/0.04 where playing is actually fun, and donk donk donk ... donk donk donk around

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This rocks! There is nothing like bet/raise every single street of every single hand and relish every curse you get from the others at the table.

As a added bonus, you can usually turn a .05-.06 profit!

Author's Note: I condensed Miles' post for brevity sake by removing most of the donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk donk.

12-21-2005 08:20 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
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A) Switch it up and do some 15BB Challenges

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I endorse this idea. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Actually, anything that isn't normal, grinding ring play is a great idea. SNGs, MTTs, donkdonkdonkadonkdonking around, nano stud, whatever. Switching up has always helped bring me out of a funk.

deception5 12-22-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Burnt Out
 
Moving up is never a good solution. Consider that at 2/4 you would have lost twice as much money on these hands. Twice after experiencing the same thing you described I've moved down 2 levels to regain confidence (2/4->1/2->.50/1 and 5/10->3/6->2/4).

A few suggestions:

1.) Don't play 4 hour marathon sessions especially if you are prone to going on tilt. Try to play shorter sessions, take a break and then come back and play more if you like or even take the rest of the day off.

2.) Try REALLY hard to stop playing when you feel like you are tilting no matter how juicy the table is. Playing scared/crazy-aggressive are sure ways to lose money at almost any table.

3.) Take a few days or a week off. Especially if you feel a bad beat coming on every time you sit down. Especially if you don't need the money there's no need to make it a miserable experience. Come back when you are ready to enjoy playing again.

4.) Remember when you play that bad beats are part of the game. You give bad beats and you get bad beats. They should not affect your play no matter how huge the pot is or how many players runner-runnered you. If the person did something crazy, make a note - but don't let it put you on tilt. Focus on optimal play, always.

5.) Remember that it's "poker money". This can get more difficult as you move up. Losing 50BB can be really painful when you think that you could have bought a stereo system/computer/car/etc with that money. Remind yourself that you are playing with a slight edge and that 50BB swings are normal and in fact part of the game.

D5


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