me folding an A high flush
 

villian is solid from what I've seen...19/5 after 300 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 ($194.75)
MP3 ($208.35)
Hero ($226.50)
Button ($79.65)
SB ($330.55)
BB ($149.20)
UTG ($212.25)
UTG+1 ($432.05)
UTG+2 ($211.85)
MP1 ($261.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($26) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, MP1 calls $30.

River: ($116) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $100</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $216

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

I prob call here.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

I fold, if he can read hands at all your hand is very transparent from the turn action.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

terrible fold. he probably has KQ or QJ with a diamond.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

Why would a solid opponent who I am guessing can read hands bet $100 dollars on this river with the second nut flush? He is only going to be called or raised by better hands. I think that he has a fullhouse more often than not.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

I like a raise on the flop.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

Tough fold, I think I would've called though. He called pf from EP, would he have done it with Q9? Or did he hit a set on flop. Toughie.. I guess you'll have other chances later, but I don't think I could've laid it down.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

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terrible fold. he probably has KQ or QJ with a diamond.

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His play is not at all consistent with those hands, especially given his stats. QJo is probably a fold preflop with 19 VP$IP from MP1, and a big bet on the river makes no sense with either hand. Whether those hands would call the turn raise is also debatable.

Even if we know for a fact he'd play those hands this way, there are only four possible combinations of KdQx and QxJd, while there are six combinations of sets (not counting QQ). This would make the river a very thin call. But I think those assumptions are far too generous toward KQ and QJ, and if they are given a more appropriate weighting then the river quickly becomes a fold.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

I gotta call this getting 2to1. He could just be using the scare card to bluff you off the best hand. He may hold the Kd. Lotta hands besides a FH he could hold.

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I gotta call this getting 2to1.

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You're getting 2-1, but given villain is pretty much a nit, what is he pot betting on the river given the turn action?

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

I'm calling this all day, everyday. Twice on sunday. Theres always a chance he has somethiong else

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

solid players can bluff too, knowing this card is probably super bad for most of the hands you raise the turn with

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

How does Villian see you??
how have you been playing last 3 orbits?
aba20 says its clear what you have by your turn bet.
I say no.
How do you think villian sees your turn bet? You may have AQ,KQ with no diamonds and be trying to charge HIM for a high singleton diamond draw or you may have a LOW made flush JdTd, 6d7d, 7d8d etc since you didnt raise pf.
Me oop with a full house?
MY action will be determined by how I think YOU will act. If you are loose agressive I would check.
If you are passive, I would bet about half the pot.
If you were TAG I would either pot bet or bet about 1/4 of the pot and hope you come over the top, think for 15.. then push of course.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

I like a raise preflop and on the flop.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

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How does Villian see you??
how have you been playing last 3 orbits?
aba20 says its clear what you have by your turn bet.
I say no.
How do you think villian sees your turn bet? You may have AQ,KQ with no diamonds and be trying to charge HIM for a high singleton diamond draw or you may have a LOW made flush JdTd, 6d7d, 7d8d etc since you didnt raise pf.
Me oop with a full house?
MY action will be determined by how I think YOU will act. If you are loose agressive I would check.
If you are passive, I would bet about half the pot.
If you were TAG I would either pot bet or bet about 1/4 of the pot and hope you come over the top, think for 15.. then push of course.

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Nice post, but most 200NL players aren't this competent. I would have a hard time giving him this much credit.

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

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solid players can bluff too, knowing this card is probably super bad for most of the hands you raise the turn with

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OK, so he bets into four people on the flop, bets again on the turn, and calls a raise, and he has absolutely no hand, hoping that a scare card will come so that he can launch a big bluff?

Re: me folding an A high flush
 

looks like a solid fold to me