Blind steal, turn decision
 

Villain in this hand is loose preflop, and I haven't seen any aggression out of him postflop in the couple orbits I've played with him. My table image is pretty stellar at this point.

Hero openraises K5o OTB. Just the BB calls.

Flop (4.5SB): 2 3 3r

Villain checks, Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero calls.

Turn (4.25BB) A

Villain bets, Hero ?

How many outs do I have on the turn? Can I call?

Re: Blind steal, turn decision
 

I don't see any value in the flop call, unless you're adding in metagame considerations.

I think the turn is a pretty easy fold. Villian could easily have hit his ace.

Re: Blind steal, turn decision
 

Looks like time to let it go. Villain ain't scared and we didn't reraise the flop to see if he could get scared (which I wouldn't recommend here anyway).

Re: Blind steal, turn decision
 

I try not to fold to the flop checkraise if I can help it. If my hand has a chance I'll usually call. That's for metagame reason.

I don't think this villain could checkraise an unimproved A on the flop, FWIW.

Re: Blind steal, turn decision
 

Think the turn is an easy fold here as you're drawing pretty thin against anything but a Q-high bluff (which doesn't seem likely).

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I try not to fold to the flop checkraise if I can help it. If my hand has a chance I'll usually call. That's for metagame reason.

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Don't worry so much about metagame. Your hand sucks. At least fold the turn.

Re: Blind steal, turn decision
 

Working on my blind steals, so maybe this is a silly question.

If you know BB is loose pf, is K5o a good enough hand to steal with? Based on the K alone?

This is a fold for me.

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Think the turn is an easy fold here as you're drawing pretty thin against anything but a Q-high bluff (which doesn't seem likely).

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I'm drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair and I'm drawing very strongly to most split dueces. Aren't those his most likely holdings?

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...is K5o a good enough hand to steal with? Based on the K alone? This is a fold for me.

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I was actually thinking the same thing.

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I'm drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair and I'm drawing very strongly to most split dueces. Aren't those his most likely holdings?

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How are you drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair? And I don't think it's standard to c/r a duece. You make this player out to be fairly loose and passive. Just fold.

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I'm drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair and I'm drawing very strongly to most split dueces. Aren't those his most likely holdings?

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How are you drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair? And I don't think it's standard to c/r a duece. You make this player out to be fairly loose and passive. Just fold.

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I have 7 outs against a mid-pocket.

Re: Blind steal, turn decision
 

I think you played this wrong on every street. I think I would have folded everywhere especially against a loose / passive.

Secondly the only hand you are drawing against is a pocket pair or 22 and even then he could have you reverse dominated. e.g. 2-K, 2-5 that way you only split if you hit.

He more than likely has a 3 or an A or a pocket pair and you have nowhere near the odds to call considering you are drawing dead vs A/3.

Edit: didn't see gutshot. I think your outs aren't .5 each but gutshot is full value. I wouldn't call here. He is passive so more likely than not your outs aren't good. Also you have to think of reverse implied odds. How often do you hit a K/5 and he bets and you call and you win?

I think you only win if he checks to you and you check behind. 0 implied odds, some reverse implied odds.

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I'm drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair and I'm drawing very strongly to most split dueces. Aren't those his most likely holdings?

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How are you drawing decent against a mid-pocket pair? And I don't think it's standard to c/r a duece. You make this player out to be fairly loose and passive. Just fold.

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I have 7 outs against a mid-pocket.

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Oops - forgot about the GSD. I noticed it at first, but then I was focusing on the K. Even if it's a mid-PP, you still don't have the odds, though.