I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

I thought my pot equity preflop was larger then 25%, therefore was that a good raise?

The limpers were usual loose players.

How about the rest of te hand I played?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls.

When I made the call after the reraise I was getting 7.75 : 1 pot odds and odds against making flus were 4.11 : 1. The implied odds were even bigger as I figured someone made str8/set. Was that a good call?

River: (20.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, MP calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 4c 5h (straight, six high).
MP has 9h Qc (one pair, nines).
Button has 2s 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: SB wins 23.50 BB. </font>

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

Preflop: considering the fact that your opponents are the regular loose ones their range of hands is wide. You might well have an equity edge here, so I dont think the raise is all bad. I would probably not do it myself though, as pumping the pot preflop might make it correct for more people to chase (with low pairs, gutshots and stuff like that) Your PF hand is marginal, and you might rather try to limit the field on the flop if you see the opportunity.

I think you played the rest of the hand well. You had about 8 outs on the turn, so calling 2 back to you was correct.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

Preface: I have not read the results.

Raising A9s from the BB in 6-max is on the mark. Full ring it might be pushing it but it was the correct play here.

Hero's call on the turn is correct and fold on the river is ok when you didn't improve (Did I just say fold TPTK on a 20 BB pot for one bet? I hate doing that - but I'm 99.99% sure you're beat - especially with SB's donk)

Also, don't post your results - it skews the the analysis you get here.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

Don't post results, even in white.

Preflop, i'm always raising ATs here, so raising A9s can't be that bad. Without some specific reads, though, i'm just checking and seeing a flop.

On the turn, you have 9 outs to the nut flush plus 2 outs to top trips plus 3 more outs to top two pair. I hope you weren't thinking about folding? If SB hadn't check/raised, you should 3-bet this all day long.

All in all, nice hand.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

nh

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

nh.

Next time leave results out.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

i check preflop and call the river.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

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i check preflop and call the river.

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yes. I thought it said A9s on button.

I would check this in the BB too. On button it is a definate raise.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

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I thought my pot equity preflop was larger then 25%, therefore was that a good raise?

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you'd only need it to be larger than 20%, but aside from that, having an equity edge might not make it necessarily a good raise

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

I'd usually check this preflop because the terrible position usually negates the slight equity advantage you have. You're in an awkward spot when the flop is 237r and may often end up spewing chips postflop (at least I do).

Also there's no folding that turn with the nut flush draw on an unpaired boad in a pot that size. Especially when there are that many players still calling.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

Would no one go for a check-raise on the flop? Betting out gives everyone 11:1 to call. Chances are you are ahead, but you are vulnerable to at least 4 overcards and spades on the turn, so isn't it worth the risk of having it checked through?

Must call the turn reraise with 7.5:1 and 9 clean flush outs + the 9's

River may be difficult to let go, but there are two players behind you yet to act and any 4 beats you. Wouldn't be surprised to see 33 either.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

Pre-flop check. If I were the button though, raise.

Call the river. Huge pot. I would have to be absolutely certain that I was beaten to fold this huge pot for 1 bet.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

PF: I'd prefer checking this through, although I don't think raising is all that bad

Flop: Good stuff

Turn: Perfect

River: Well done, I think calling here is silly, especially with people left to act who showed aggression on the turn

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

yeah i actually don't think Preflop is that MAJOR of a mistake as an offsuit holding would be worse.

i like the hand and would play it the same regardless of the results because even if we don't raise preflop, we're probably betting out on this flop anyways.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

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Would no one go for a check-raise on the flop? Betting out gives everyone 11:1 to call. Chances are you are ahead, but you are vulnerable to at least 4 overcards and spades on the turn, so isn't it worth the risk of having it checked through?

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It's not usually a good plan to raise preflop from the big blind and check on a harmless flop. This is a value bet and we'd like to protect our hand against things like K8 or even QJ. A BB raise shows extreme strength and a player with QJ will likely believe they have less than 6 outs (which they would if we had AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ/AA-JJ/99 which are all in our range) and will often fold especially when not closing the action.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

tough luck, you played it well, especially the river fold which is a difficult lay getting 12-1 with top pair.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

He makes the assumption that in such a loose game, betting will not protect your hand from QJ and K10 hands. I think I might agree with that assumption, and say a check-raise might be a smart play.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

You folded for one bet on the river????????Just call even if you think you are beaten.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

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a difficult lay getting 12-1 with top pair.

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Isn't it 21.5:1???

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

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He makes the assumption that in such a loose game, betting will not protect your hand from QJ and K10 hands. I think I might agree with that assumption, and say a check-raise might be a smart play.

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I think this argument is flawed. We're raising preflop because of a slight equity edge. On the flop our equity has usually skyrocketed and now we just want to check. What happens when it checks through because everyone is afraid of your monster hand? How much value do you give up letting flushes, gutshots, and overs draw for free? How are you going to make up for the money you left on the table?

If you want everyone to fold on the flop or draw incorrectly then check preflop instead of raising and face them with a 5:1 bet.

Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?
 

Ok I am convinced the BB raise with A9s was wrong. The rest of the hand I played okay I think.

Even they river fold in my eyes is sooo obvious.

Thanks for comments every1.