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12-20-2005 02:33 AM

Fill in my play...
 
SB has been tighter than a nun and will pretty much fold to any bet. So many times I have bet and he folded. Checking will not induce any bluffs by him, he is either check or fold, or call if he has something reasonable.

UTG hasn't been at the table very long so no good reads, but he has bluffed a few times and called through with middle pair.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB calls, Hero...

numeri 12-20-2005 02:46 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
Fold the first time.

EDIT: on the flop

12-20-2005 02:48 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
somtimes i peel on the flop here but not after a lead like this.

12-20-2005 02:49 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
you're trying to justify plays other than folding on the flop and it's wrong.

numeri 12-20-2005 02:51 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
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somtimes i peel on the flop here but not after a lead like this.

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Peel hoping for what? You're drawing thin to dead here most of the time.

12-20-2005 02:57 AM

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you're trying to justify plays other than folding on the flop and it's wrong.

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I didn't make a terrible play on this. I just wanted to see what other people said up to this point. I called the SB, but dumped on the UTG raise.

DCWildcat 12-20-2005 03:01 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
i'm dumping after the first bet thanks to your description of sb + the K

12-20-2005 03:04 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
i said not on this hand, please pay attention.

numeri 12-20-2005 03:15 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
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i said not on this hand, please pay attention.

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Easy there, tiger.

You wrote "somtimes i peel on the flop here but not after a lead like this." It wasn't obvious to me when you would peel and when you wouldn't. It's almost impossible for me to find a situation where it's capped preflop by the SB and the flop comes Kxy and I call a bet with my AQ.

12-20-2005 03:16 AM

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you're trying to justify plays other than folding on the flop and it's wrong.

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I didn't make a terrible play on this. I just wanted to see what other people said up to this point. I called the SB, but dumped on the UTG raise.

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I didn't say it was terrible...but you just did. Learning is fun!

12-20-2005 03:18 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
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you're trying to justify plays other than folding on the flop and it's wrong.

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I didn't make a terrible play on this. I just wanted to see what other people said up to this point. I called the SB, but dumped on the UTG raise.

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I didn't say it was terrible...but you just did. Learning is fun!

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I'm still in 6max noob mistake mode.

12-20-2005 03:20 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
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you're trying to justify plays other than folding on the flop and it's wrong.

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I didn't make a terrible play on this. I just wanted to see what other people said up to this point. I called the SB, but dumped on the UTG raise.

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I didn't say it was terrible...but you just did. Learning is fun!

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I'm still in 6max noob mistake mode.

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6max or not the flop call is pretty bad the first time...not closing the action, only one over card which is not likely clean, no flush draw, etc. Your hand didn't hit and investing any more $ on the flop is silly.

imported_leader 12-20-2005 03:48 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
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Fold the first time.

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Chairman Wood 12-20-2005 06:04 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
After an ultra tight SB cap and then lead on this board I fail to see how you have anywhere enough to continue with this hand. You shouldn't have bothered calling the initial flop bet.

12-20-2005 09:03 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
if sb has been "tighter then a nun" why do u three bet AQs pre flop??? and i would fold flop...

12-20-2005 10:03 AM

Re: Fill in my play...
 
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if sb has been "tighter then a nun" why do u three bet AQs pre flop??? and i would fold flop...

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Trying to isolate because he folds flop a lot...

That is my guess anyway.

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