AQ....brain is mush.
 

UTG+1 is loose preflop with his calls. Raising standards are fine. He actually plays quite OK postflop. Actually other than he likes to gamble preflop, he's not horrible. He does have a tendancy some times to play his cards without any consideration for what's going on around him.

MP3 is terrible. Big fish.

Button is a strong TAG. 20/9/1.8

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6.75 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="green"> Hero ? </font>

I'd had a few beers and I went totally blank on this hand.
What's the plan?

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

c/r

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

If he's going to bet this flop pretty much automatically I would dust off the old check and raise play.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

I thought so too.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6.75 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, <font color="green">Hero ??</font>

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

I would call the flop and bet any turn card that wasn't the King of Hearts.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

a J gives button the nuts.

hey Kwaz your pot size is cut in half. it should be 13.5 sb. button really should not bet AK if it gets checked to him here, so the only time a c/r is good against him is if he has JJ...

checking allows him to check through AK and when we check raise we're likely getting money in with the worst hand.

betting traps everyone between us in a big pot when we really want to narrow the field.

is this a spot where we should go ahead and risk check raising against a better hand in order to narrow the field in an attempt to maximize our chance of winning teh big pot? i think so.

now that UTG+1 has donked the mother of donks, i agree with cash, although like i hinted earlier, i am not very eager about donking a J, either (based on buttons play so far, AK or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J seems very very likely).

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

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is this a spot where we should go ahead and risk check raising against a better hand in order to narrow the field in an attempt to maximize our chance of winning teh big pot? i think so.

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The more I think about this, the more my brain turns to mush.

- Does the quality of player inbetween Hero and the PF3bettor have an affect?
- Do we widen his range considering he's on the button?
- Are we missing too much value by not betting?
- How likely is it that he checks AK in a field this big?
- Is there a pot size point where our action will change?

To be honest, at the time, I just said (slightly drunk):
"pot big, hand good, he bet, me raise"

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

Raise now. When decisions are close, you should default to getting raises in now when you hold a blocker and waiting when you don't. You hold the blocker in this hand, so act accordingly.

I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] cryptic posts. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

hey kwaz

dont you hate it when ppl bet into you after you raise preflop? i hate it too, so thats why i do it lots now.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

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Raise now. When decisions are close, you should default to getting raises in now when you hold a blocker and waiting when you don't. You hold the blocker in this hand, so act accordingly.

I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] cryptic posts. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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So would you raise now with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

Looks like a nice spot for a check raise? Hoping to get it heads up with button and his overs.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

I would. There is just about nothing that I'm going check/call-bet with here (unless I improve of course). Stuff like [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draws and K9/J9 and sets are going to town on the flop, so why not do it with a one pair hand.

Also notice that a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is a freezer of sorts so we can jam now with good equity, play dumb on a turn [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and play poker on any other turn. W/O the [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] we can play dead now and then come to life when our equity improves. This is my MO for hands like this.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

<font color="blue"> This was a "deer in headlights" call. </font>

Turn: (8.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="green">Hero ??</font>

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

Bet the turn.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

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UTG+1 is loose preflop with his calls. Raising standards are fine. He actually plays quite OK postflop. Actually other than he likes to gamble preflop, he's not horrible. He does have a tendancy some times to play his cards without any consideration for what's going on around him.

MP3 is terrible. Big fish.

Button is a strong TAG. 20/9/1.8

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6.75 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="green"> Hero ? </font>

I'd had a few beers and I went totally blank on this hand.
What's the plan?

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Check with the intention of raising button's bet.

Re: AQ....brain is mush.
 

Given Button's numbers, his 3-betting range in this spot looks alot like TT+, and AK.

You beat 12 combos of AK and 6 combo of JJ.
You lose to 16 combos of AA,KK,QQ,TT.

So you are a little bit ahead of button here. Is he going to bet AK in this spot? If so I would go for a check raise to protect my hand.

If he can take the free card in this spot, then I like betting out, if we get 1 caller, he won't get too tricky and if he raises we will know that we need to improve in order to beat his hand. Also betting out makes sure that money does go into the pot on the flop when we are ahead.

We might even get UTG+1 to raise with something like KQ.

Against this villain, I feel betting out might be better than check raising since his numbers suggest that he is more likely to check behind with AK in this spot. Is this a reasonable assumption?