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zaphod 12-18-2005 08:44 AM

TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
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BB is my favorite maniac of the week. His stats are 81/36..
He likes to raise to anywhere from 5-10BB preflop, and continues by betting close to pot on the flop and frequently massivly overbets the pot.. I have been playing with him for a while on two tables( having position on him at both tables [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]) and i have won some enourmous pots from him with just one pair hands..
He has frequently raised from the BB with a few limpers.

Button is also quite loose. His stats are more sane 42/23.

At this table i have been playing quite thigth lately(don't know if anybody have noticed..)
So i decide to limp and try to reraise if BB raises to isolate him. Do you like my play, or do you hate it?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($13.20)
BB ($46.95)
Hero ($134.40)
MP ($82.95)
CO ($99)
Button ($104.80)


Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.

Hero calls [$1].
MP calls [$1].
CO calls [$1].
Button raises [$7].
SB folds.
BB calls [$6].
Hero raises [$29].

zaphod 12-21-2005 08:01 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
Sorry for bumping my own post, but i would like to know if anybody has any comments on this one.

Maulik 12-21-2005 08:03 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
Raise smaller or let him bet into you with the likely best hand.

TT isn't good when a J,Q,K,A or you see 2-broadway cards, no?

Fallen Hero 12-21-2005 08:06 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
[ QUOTE ]
Sorry for bumping my own post, but i would like to know if anybody has any comments on this one.

[/ QUOTE ]

i like it, hope you isolated one of them

xorbie 12-21-2005 08:07 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
TT probably not the best hand to do this with.

zaphod 12-21-2005 08:25 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
How much would you raise then? I thought TT was a very vurnable hand if i got more than one caller. My thought was that i wanted to isolate vs the BB or take the pot down. If i get heads up vs BB he is almost all in already, so i guess i am not laying down my hand no matter what.
There is already quite a bit of money in the pot.
Also i thought that there was a good chance that the buttons hand did not stand a reraise since he was raising preflop so frequently.

This is not a standard play for me at all, but at the time it felt right vs this BB and button.

If i get called or raised by any of the other players i doubt that my hand is good.

12-21-2005 08:35 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
I would be reluctant to do this because if the button calls, it would be a very difficult hand to play. I would be compelled to continuation bet in the event no overcards or a single overcard flops in order to prevent the button from taking control of the hand, but any meaningful continuation bet pot commits you.

jasonHoldEm 12-21-2005 08:40 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
I don't like this play given you're trying to isolate someone from the blinds and have to go through the entire field to do so. If target was UTG and we're UTG+1 I'd be more than willing to raise/re-raise him to isolate, but in this spot we should lead out preflop and hope our raise does the isolating for us (i.e. everyone folds BB calls or raises us)...it will accomplish our goals with a greater chance of success.

J

zaphod 12-21-2005 08:56 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
Does this mean that you think this is a ok move with a stronger hand? If so how much stronger?

xorbie 12-21-2005 09:03 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
QQ+

DJ Sensei 12-21-2005 09:21 PM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
Aye, limpreraising with TT is... meh. The best possible result is that you win the pot preflop. In that case, you've won... oh, $16 bucks or so. And you risked $30 to do it.
Worst case, you get re-reraised, and you're screwed.
second worst case, you get called. Are there any flops without a T that you're really comfortable with OOP?

Save this fancy play for QQ+, use TT and below to stack him when you hit your set.

zaphod 12-22-2005 05:29 AM

Re: TT UTG, NL100, 6 max
 
Thanks for your replies.
Yes i think you are probably right guys, that this play was too fancy- high risk, not enough award.

What made me think that it might have been a good play at the time was that button and BB was very aggro preflop, meaning my TT would be better than a bunch of their raising hands.

Here was the possible scenarios when i raised to 29:

-Hopefully everybody will fold, this gives me a nice pot.
-All fold except BB, who calls or raises. This is also ok
since i think his range is quite big.
-Button calls. This is not good.
- Co or MP calls. This is very bad, and i am likely behind.
-I get more than one caller. This is also very bad.

The good thing about my big reraise is thoose of my opponents that might be thinking would put me on a strong hand, probably AA or KK. So MP or CO will mostly get out of the way, and i also think button would need a decent hand to call me here, leaving BB as the person who would most likely give me action.

Obviously if the action preflop had been a bunch of limpers, i would have to play carefully.


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