PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

From someone with less than 20 VPIP, this flop 3-bet is always a set, right?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($191)
MP1 ($198)
MP2 ($272.90)
Hero ($364.80)
CO ($174.81)
Button ($172.55)
SB ($185)
BB ($233.95)
UTG ($255)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($12) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $70</font>, Hero ???

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

Not necessarily...I'd definitely want to know his aggression level overall and his flop aggression level.

If this was 6 max, I'd say the follwing: With top 2, I think your money needs to go in here. Given that he is in the blind, he could have T5o 85o, 76 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 8x [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Now, that being said, I don't play full ring games so I'm curious about other replies.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

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villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

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I would be extremely uncomfortable getting my money in against a player with those stats, out of position, not afraid of my raise.

It's a fairly safe idea to drop two pair against weak nits who suddenly wake up, without a very good reason not to fold.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

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villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

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I would try to get everything in the middle, 55 hands is not very much. If you had 150+ hands I would consider folding the 2 pair.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

hes SB and 55 hands is nothing, he could easily have some other weird two-pair combo, I get my $ in here.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

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villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

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Enough to know his is a nit. I'd drop it.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

well, against my better judgement, i called and continued with the hand, getting it all in on the turn. villain had 88.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

When a 13/3 guy three bets you, just fold.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

just shove it in... u are even money against a big draw and if he has 55 he gets my money. he might have a lower2 pair which many turn cards can scare him (and maybe you) off. so get it in now.

Re: PP $200 - T8s flops two pair
 

This is an unraised 6 way pot in a full game against a nit who's 3 betting you? I'm out of this hand.

I'm usually very excited to get my money in on flop except when planets align and the above criteria are met.