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Chris Daddy Cool 12-17-2005 08:55 AM

AT
 
6 max game

bb in this game seems reasonable. couple hands before he defended me in an argument vs another player who is bad mouthing everybody on the table. so maybe he has some respect for my play?

i raise A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the CO. SB folds. BB calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB bets. I raise. BB 3-bets.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets. I raise. He 3-bets.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets. I fold.

MAxx 12-17-2005 12:28 PM

Re: AT
 
i'd call

Bizot 12-17-2005 12:33 PM

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I dont quite get it here raising/calling down and fold for 1 bet? that is a big pot and you have trips I want to see his flush if he has it or his weak ace.

partygirluk 12-17-2005 12:35 PM

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3 and a half months too early Chris.

Spicymoose 12-17-2005 12:48 PM

Re: AT
 
I think he could place Ax with a heart like this, so I call the river.

NLfool 12-17-2005 12:58 PM

Re: AT
 
I think this is the kind of fold you need to make to "reasonable players". Now a reasonable player isn't going to go crazy with trips and an 7 kicker on this board (unless you've been laggish). If he has the A with the Kh or Qh, has flopped the flush or filled up he 3bets. which looks like the case here. So you beeat something like A9-A7 A4 A3. etc. Weigting them it even seems more like fold. If he insta bets the river I think you can find a fold. Whether or not I can find that fold in the heat of battle, is tough

Alobar 12-17-2005 02:35 PM

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I think its possible enough you will see a weaker ace for this to be a call. His play wouldnt be inconsistent for a hand like A9, especially if he views you as good and aggresive.

Subfallen 12-17-2005 02:38 PM

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is it wrong that i would call down after he's not afraid of the A on the turn and still leads? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

johnnycakes 12-17-2005 02:41 PM

Re: AT
 
if you're going to fold that river, why raise the turn?

Grisgra 12-17-2005 02:44 PM

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You and Krish need to get a "Watch me fold trips on the river for one bet" room. Next thing you know you'll be telling us you can dodge bullets.

PokerBob 12-17-2005 02:50 PM

Re: AT
 
[ QUOTE ]
6 max game

bb in this game seems reasonable. couple hands before he defended me in an argument vs another player who is bad mouthing everybody on the table. so maybe he has some respect for my play?

i raise A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the CO. SB folds. BB calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB bets. I raise. BB 3-bets.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets. I raise. He 3-bets.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets. I fold.

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why not just fold to the turn 3-bet?

Grisgra 12-17-2005 02:52 PM

Re: AT
 
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why not just fold to the turn 3-bet?

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Because if villain is doing this with a flush, it's worth it to call one bet and hope the board pairs. Hell, the same goes if the villain is doing this with a low boat.

Spicymoose 12-17-2005 02:58 PM

Re: AT
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
6 max game

bb in this game seems reasonable. couple hands before he defended me in an argument vs another player who is bad mouthing everybody on the table. so maybe he has some respect for my play?

i raise A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the CO. SB folds. BB calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB bets. I raise. BB 3-bets.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets. I raise. He 3-bets.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets. I fold.

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why not just fold to the turn 3-bet?

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Because we might have up to 10 out in a 10 BB pot?

wackjob 12-17-2005 03:40 PM

Re: AT
 
no chance I could fold.

12-17-2005 04:34 PM

Re: AT
 
The river fold is terrible. You don't necessarily have to raise the turn here, either.

TStoneMBD 12-17-2005 06:33 PM

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river fold looks good

wheelz 12-17-2005 06:38 PM

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river fold looks good

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wheelz 12-17-2005 06:38 PM

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no chance I could fold.

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sthief09 12-17-2005 07:18 PM

Re: AT
 
I would have called the turn I think

Victor 12-17-2005 07:23 PM

Re: AT
 
bet/fold lines suck. i feel like a broken record.

no one is that good. there is just not enough info bc ppl are erratic.

flawless_victory 12-17-2005 08:45 PM

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I would have called the turn I think

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me2 call turn/call river... i dont see the point of the turn raise... how much value could it have?

i like the river fold as the hand was played, but no reason to get yourself threebet on turn here... sure looks like he has a flush anyway.


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