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ilya 12-17-2005 02:51 AM

($55) I hate JJ
 
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: A ( $635 )
Seat 3: B ( $1060 )
Seat 5: C ( $3035 )
Seat 6: E ( $920 )
Seat 7: F ( $1710 )
Seat 8: G ( $820 )
Seat 9: HERO ( $855 )
Seat 10: EVIL GENIUS ( $965 )

Level:3
Blinds(25/50)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jd Jc ]

HERO raises [150].
EVIL GENIUS raises [375].
A folds.
B folds.
C folds.
E folds.
F folds.
G folds.

HERO ==> ZERO!

splashpot 12-17-2005 02:56 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
This is why I still limp JJ in early position. Even though most people here raise it. I think you have to fold to his reraise. But then again.....you are the Hero. And the Hero always wins against the Evil Genius.

curtains 12-17-2005 03:00 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
I think folding to the reraise is ok, and I think that limping here is just totally ridiculous. The blind is 1/17th of your stack and you have JJ!

splashpot 12-17-2005 03:02 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
Oh yea. For some reason I totally missed that the blinds are 25/50. I thought it was earlier. Yea, limping sucks then. But I still fold to the Evil Genius.

Mr_J 12-17-2005 03:02 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
If you are folding to a reraise, I think you should raise less, or limp as splashpot suggested.

12-17-2005 03:03 AM

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I think folding to the reraise is ok, and I think that limping here is just totally ridiculous. The blind is 1/17th of your stack and you have JJ!

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I take back that nice thing I said about you earlier, splashpot.

Roman 12-17-2005 03:19 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
meh this is borderline for me, I fold TT and push QQ. Part of me doesnt like folding JJ with 17x, but if I was to do it, this would be the spot.

curtains 12-17-2005 03:21 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
I raise to 125 instead of 150 but in any case the reraise to 375 is especially dangerous.

12-17-2005 03:24 AM

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I raise to 125 instead of 150 but in any case the reraise to 375 is especially dangerous.

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What's magical about the 25chip difference?

bones 12-17-2005 03:27 AM

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I raise to 125 instead of 150 but in any case the reraise to 375 is especially dangerous.

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What's magical about the 25chip difference?

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Keeps the pot a bit smaller for when you have to play postflop. It's not a huge difference, but since the raise is a greater % of the stacks, it doesnt have to be as big.

Hey, something I agree with curtains on.

Mr_J 12-17-2005 03:30 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
I couldn't fold these here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Generally if I play something in EP it's for a raise, usually 125 at 25/50. Whether I call or not would depend on my read of the player of course, or even just my intuition. I don't actually like limping, but it couldn't be that bad on at a passive table.

curtains 12-17-2005 03:36 AM

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I raise to 125 instead of 150 but in any case the reraise to 375 is especially dangerous.

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What's magical about the 25chip difference?

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Keeps the pot a bit smaller for when you have to play postflop. It's not a huge difference, but since the raise is a greater % of the stacks, it doesnt have to be as big.

Hey, something I agree with curtains on.

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How come so many people are so excited to disagree with me about all topics. First suitedsixes, now you!

bones 12-17-2005 03:41 AM

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How come so many people are so excited to disagree with me about all topics. First suitedsixes, now you!

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Lack of sex makes both of us generally disagreeable. Start praising Latina women and this will certainly change.

12-17-2005 03:48 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
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I raise to 125 instead of 150 but in any case the reraise to 375 is especially dangerous.

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What's magical about the 25chip difference?

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Keeps the pot a bit smaller for when you have to play postflop. It's not a huge difference, but since the raise is a greater % of the stacks, it doesnt have to be as big.

Hey, something I agree with curtains on.

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How come so many people are so excited to disagree with me about all topics. First suitedsixes, now you!

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I disagree... I think most ppl agree with you.

curtains 12-17-2005 03:59 AM

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no, but some people like to talk about how they disagree with almost everything I say. Makes me cry sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

12-17-2005 04:03 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
I disagree with that too.

SuitedSixes 12-17-2005 04:23 AM

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How come so many people are so excited to disagree with me about all topics. First suitedsixes, now you!

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I agreed with you earlier this week and I agree with you here. Make it 125 and fold to the re-raise. What kind of range are we putting the villain on that we can beat without a J on the flop?

curtains 12-17-2005 04:36 AM

Re: ($55) I hate JJ
 
Yes Im referring to your earlier post from a long time ago where you stated "I don't believe Ive ever agreed with one thing curtains has said!"

I never said you didnt learn the error of your ways.

Roman 12-17-2005 07:28 AM

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no, but some people like to talk about how they disagree with almost everything I say. Makes me cry sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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how are those people not broke right now? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

12-17-2005 07:51 AM

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I couldn't fold these here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Generally if I play something in EP it's for a raise, usually 125 at 25/50. Whether I call or not would depend on my read of the player of course, or even just my intuition. I don't actually like limping, but it couldn't be that bad on at a passive table.

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I agree, limping on a passive table isn't bad at all.

P.S. usually I agree with curtains. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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