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Python49 12-16-2005 04:02 AM

Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
So I decided to play today after taking a break from my bad run thats lasted for 3 months or so. Today I logged about 1500 hands and these all happened in those 1500.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($128.70)
UTG ($418.37)
MP ($77.80)
Button ($181)
Hero ($232.33)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $23</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP folds, Button calls $16.

Flop: ($52) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($52) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, Button calls $25.

River: ($102) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $183.33 (All-In), Button calls $132 (All-In).

Final Pot: $417.33

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has 9c 9h (four of a kind, nines).
Hero has As Ad (full house, aces full of nines).
Outcome: Button wins $366. Hero wins $51.33. </font>

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO ($66.10)
Button ($71.10)
SB ($173)
BB ($86.35)
Hero ($225.20)
MP ($304.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button folds, BB calls $15.

Turn: ($55) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, BB calls $63.35 (All-In), Hero calls $23.35.

River: ($181.70) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $181.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ks Td (two pair, kings and tens).
Hero has Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $181.70. </font>

Villain in this next hand had been a maniac and chip spewing, I had been waiting him out to catch him:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Button ($127.76)
Hero ($523.75)
BB ($256.30)
UTG ($154.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5, Button folds.

Turn: ($16) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10.

River: ($36) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, BB calls $239.30 (All-In), Hero calls $189.30.

Final Pot: $514.60

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jh Kh (flush, king high).
BB has Ah 3h (flush, ace high).
Outcome: BB wins $514.60. </font>

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter

BB ($48)
UTG ($253.35)
Hero ($223.50)
SB ($182.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($19) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, UTG calls $18.

Turn: ($61) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $50</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $111

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. UTG wins $111. </font>
Converter messed up but he actually showed the flush.

Yep i'd been waiting this guy out too, he had been all in numerous times with mid pair and sucked out:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Hero ($334.72)
Button ($199)
SB ($270.50)
BB ($191.15)
UTG ($291.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($26) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, SB calls $20, UTG folds.

Turn: ($66) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $64</font>, SB calls $242.50 (All-In), Hero calls $178.50.

River: ($551) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $551

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ad 4d (flush, ace high).
Hero has 7s 7h (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: SB wins $551. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Hero ($398.49)
CO ($27.65)
Button ($302.31)
SB ($199)
BB ($169)
UTG ($201.53)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $15, BB calls $15.

Turn: ($67) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, Button folds, BB calls $147 (All-In), Hero calls $97.

River: ($361) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $361

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ah Ad (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has 8d 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: BB wins $361. </font>

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO ($416.65)
Button ($84.95)
SB ($192)
BB ($132.85)
Hero ($211.90)
MP ($323.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($17) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, Button calls $10.

Turn: ($37) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button calls $20.

River: ($97) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $97

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jc Ah (two pair, jacks and threes).
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $97. </font>
No idea what is wrong with the converter but this guy had Q/9 and I lost on the river. I'm reading the hand I put into the converter now and its saying I lost, no clue whats wrong with it.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Hero ($299.70)
CO ($287.15)
Button ($348.45)
SB ($178.40)
BB ($242.40)
UTG ($170.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $12.

Flop: ($39) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $260</font>, UTG calls $77.15 (All-In).

Turn: ($451.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($451.15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $451.15

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 7c 6s (four of a kind, sixes).
Hero has Kh Ks (full house, sixes full of kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $343.30. Hero wins $107.85. </font>

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($166.50)
Hero ($218.60)
UTG ($169.08)
MP ($198)
CO ($350)
Button ($528.67)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, UTG calls $164.08 (All-In), Hero calls $149.08.

Flop: ($339.16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($339.16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($339.16) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $339.16

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Ac (three of a kind, aces).
UTG has Kd Ks (flush, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins $334.16. Hero wins $5. </font>

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 4 handed) converter

SB ($276.85)
Hero ($209.15)
UTG ($40.65)
Button ($80.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, Button calls $8.

Flop: ($25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, Button calls $22.

Turn: ($69) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, Button calls $46.40 (All-In), Hero calls $11.40.

River: ($161.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $161.80

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Js Jd (three of a kind, jacks).
Button has 7h 9h (flush, jack high).
Outcome: Button wins $161.80. </font>

Villain in this hand was a short stack who was on tilt and pushing alot:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO ($85.56)
Button ($69)
SB ($196.80)
Hero ($194)
UTG ($44.60)
MP ($87.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $44.60 (All-In), <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $42.60.

Flop: ($90.20) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($90.20) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($90.20) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $90.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9s 9d (full house, nines full of kings).
UTG has Ah Ks (full house, kings full of aces).
Outcome: UTG wins $85.20. Hero wins $5. </font>

This is just today's batch. Yes i've been having days like this every other session I play and been struggling for the past 60k+ hands. Do you see why?

The Truth 12-16-2005 04:12 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
NICE!

blake

Python49 12-16-2005 06:38 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
=[

NLfool 12-16-2005 06:48 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
dude I never feel sorry for anyone in bad beat posts but today is the first. You must think this sh!t is rigged.

LOL sorry but after reading this my day seems a bit better

Python49 12-16-2005 06:52 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
It's not really so much the beats that I took.. granted, some of the beats are bad but they happen, i'm used to it. If this happened once a week or once a month i'd be totally cool with it. The only reason i've been going crazy though is because it's been happening for a LONG time now. Been thinking its going to end any day now.

Percy101 12-16-2005 07:08 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
that is frightening. I'm well overdue a visit from captain variance so I guess this is what I have to look forward to... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

12-16-2005 08:22 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
0o00oo the varience monster strikes again...

Unlucky mate...

12-16-2005 09:08 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
Python49, the same is happening to me at Party now.
Did you use their December reload bonus ?

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 09:09 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
[ QUOTE ]
Python49, the same is happening to me at Party now.
Did you use their December reload bonus ?

[/ QUOTE ]

If you did, they probably switched you to "Lose"

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 09:16 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
In all fairness and not to get into strategy, and maybe there's some results oriented thinking that's poisoning the well, but I think that at least one or two of these hands were misplayed.

Python49 12-16-2005 09:54 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
Poboy, I won't be offended, please elaborate on which ones.

Climbing, no I didn't use any bonus, this losing streak has nothing to do with a bonus... its been going on for a while now

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 10:07 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
[ QUOTE ]

Poboy, I won't be offended, please elaborate on which ones.

[/ QUOTE ]

You'll get more/better responses if you post them in SSNL, but here goes.

Hand #1, bet the flop, like a standard CB. Hope that those times villain has AK or a 9, he gets married to it. It should be the size of your standard continuation bet.

Hand #2, bet more on the flop, that way you can just push the turn.

Hand #3-7 all look fine, just some tough breaks.

Hand #8, I was originally gonna say that you should probably fold to villain's check/raise, then I realize that he raised pre-flop and called your reraise, so it's really hard to put him on a 6. Tough hand, pay it off.

Hand #9 looks fine

Hand #10, given stack sizes, you should just push the turn.

Hand #11, I think you're getting into some results oriented thinking here. You were a coinflip when the money went in, so it doens't matter if the flop came AAK and you were drawing dead or the flop came A92 and he needed near-perfect runners.

I'm not saying that there was any way to get out of these situations, but there are better ways to play the hands.

&lt;/content&gt;

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 10:39 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
This thread got ghostbumped, so it keeps saying that there's a new post, but there really isn't, so I'm just replying so that this thread won't be highlighted anymore.

Python49 12-16-2005 01:29 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
Anyone who thinks they know what variance is, send me a PM and i'll let you watch one of my daily sessions so you can realize your losing of 2-3 buyins one day out of the week is not variance. I also plan on making a post each day with the new bad run beats for my sessions. Already got 5 today and down a total of 4 buyins, gonna need 5 more however for it to be up to par with the original post. I'll get about 1000 hands in later and that should be sufficient to get the 5 more.

joeski19 12-16-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
Brutal.

ahnuld 12-16-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
these all suck, but half really arent that bad. If this is happening every day however, you have my condolences

Python49 12-16-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
[ QUOTE ]
these all suck, but half really arent that bad.

[/ QUOTE ]
I agree 100%

If it were just 1 day then whatever, sh*t happens. But the main point I guess i'm trying to make is that this has been happening for my past 60k+ hands, seriuosly. And I still welcome anyone who does not believe me to just shout me a PM, msg me on AIM, I can load up a few tables and just watch me play for an hour. Ciao.

MrFeelNothin 12-16-2005 03:43 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
i cant remember the last time i hit 7 sets in one day......let alone lost 7.

how many hands did you play in this day? 5000?

Python49 12-16-2005 03:47 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
1500'ish

EMcWilliams 12-16-2005 05:04 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
HAHAHAHAHA, The same thing happens to me. I was going to post some too, but mine are in smaller stakes and not as frequent because I played less hands. These only happen to me in 6 max too, which is the funny part. I can shamefully boast that up until today I was -bb/100 at 25nl 6 max. It was stuff like this that kept happening.

Toro 12-16-2005 10:09 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
What's worse? A bad beat or a cold deck? Who knows, they both suck and you experienced both in the same session. Unless you have a tilt proof constitution, take a break.

12-16-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
[ QUOTE ]
these all suck, but half really arent that bad. If this is happening every day however, you have my condolences

[/ QUOTE ]
this has been happening to me every session for the last 2 weeks. im getting really sick of it. people call my raises with BS, which is EXACTLY what i want, but what happens is what i dont want. i end up losing big pots because i flop a set, overpair etc. and they hit a straight on the turn or river, playing their 45s. and the bad thing is, im not even a loose player yet the players are so bad that they call my 8x bb raises with junk and suck out. the last tourney i played in was a free tourney on AP; basically full of fish. 10 minutes into it, i get QQ utg and push, knowing somebody would call with something mediocre. girl calls with only 1/3 of my chips with 22... flop is 2 4 5 and im a short stack. i managed to battle back, and two hours later i get KK on the button, folds to me i pop it up to 6x the BB knowing the BB chip leader would atleast call. he runs the timer down to zero and says good luck, i already qualified for the main event. and he pushes and i know what he has and i instacall. i was right, AK. he hits his 3 outer on the river and im done instead of being the chip leader. and then a little while after that i join a 25 nl table, i get QQ in middle position, utg raises to $1, i raise to $4, button goes all in for $7, utg goes all in and i call. what am i up against? A7o and 99. i wouldntve been mad if the ace wouldve hit, but a 9 came on the river and i was done for the night [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] this has been standard for me.

Python49 12-17-2005 02:18 AM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
Ben, you really are beginning to sound like me. But after 2 weeks of having it happen I still had an optimistic perspective that everyone goes on bad runs. I waited until after 2 months and a newly added bad beat forum to begin to share.

Enjoy!

12-18-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Beats from today\'s session, yup, this is standard for me
 
Python,

I just sat down at your table when this happened:

Hero ($398.49)
CO ($27.65)
Button ($302.31)
SB ($199)
BB ($169)
UTG ($201.53)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8, 8. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) 6, A, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, Button calls $15, BB calls $15.

Turn: ($67) 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50, Button folds, BB calls $147 (All-In), Hero calls $97.

River: ($361) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $361

Results in white below:
BB has Ah Ad (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has 8d 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: BB wins $361.

I couldn't believe it...played the hand back to my wife on PT to show her and she gasped as well.

To your credit, you didn't go on tilt after the hand, playing good tight poker. Hang in there.


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