what to do with AA in this situation
 

OK, Button is 42%vpip, 9%pfr over 43 hands.


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($42.95)
BB ($33.80)
Hero ($50)
MP ($15.70)
Button ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $18.5</font>, SB folds, Hero ???

I realize that the preflop riase on my part wasn't enough... I should have made it $2.50-$3.
aside from that what would you do? or lets pretend i did raise it to $3 which I do 80% of the time with AA. Assuming i made it $3, what now...

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 

raise 4xbb preflop first-in so to $2. based on those stats and without a specific read, probably fold here

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Make it $2.50 pre-flop, easy fold on the flop.

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is it an easy fold on the flop because he has "decent" stats or because of the board or both ? At UB, i've seen people do this with AQ, QK far too often...

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yeah, i don't think this is exactly an easy fold either..but i would probably fold it

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is it an easy fold on the flop because he has "decent" stats or because of the board or both ? At UB, i've seen people do this with AQ, QK far too often...

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Well kind of a combination of both. There just aren't a lot of hands that play this way that you're ahead of here. With the paired board, I think that all too often, players get passive with anything less than trips.

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I dont mind a check on this flop

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I dont mind a check on this flop

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I disagree. It's possible that hero still has the best hand, and a bet/fold finds that out much more easily than check/call, and check/fold just seems too weak.

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I would more then likely call this. Such a big bet seems to me like pair of queens with a high kicker. And you can reavaluate on the turn...This is just what i would do by no means am i an expert...8)

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This is a really tough call because a number of things go into your decision. You have to take into account his previous actions and what he has done with big hands before and if he plays position. From what I've seen, most micro limit players will slowplay a big hand off the flop and then bet heavy on the turn or river. His past actions would probably be my biggest determining factor. Because of the size of his raise he is almost all in and you don't have to worry about putting too much more in on later betting rounds. If he seemed to be a typical microlimit player and I felt I was pretty certain he would slowplay off the flop, I would probably just go ahead and put him all in for the rest of his money. (A call is useless here because he will almost always go all in on the turn and then you have to call.) However if I had any uncertainty about this player at all, I would lay it down.

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Well, I felt that he was going to do this more often than not with a Qx hand probalby AQ or QK, and after his raise, he only had $1 left in his stack, i just reraised him all in.
River was blank, and he turns over JQ for the boat and wins.

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With two opponents seeing the flop I don't think it is that unlikely that one of them could have a jack. A reraise on this flop with a 3 way pot is a pretty strong statement in my experience. It's a dangerous board. I definately wouldn't expect a stone bluff. The small blind could be going for a check raise or check call with trips. You could have the trips, or the overpair, or the queen with a better kicker and bet out.

His vpip is very high so I am making his preflop range pretty wide.

AJ: 4 ways
KJ: 8 ways
JT: 8 ways
J9: 8 ways
J8: 8 ways

Or the full house:
QQ: 3 ways
QJ: 4 ways

Or quads:
JJ 1 way

I'll take out QQ since he could have raised preflop
total: 41 ways

Obviously KK could reraise here all short stacked.
KK: 6 ways


The argument for the queen is that your opponent is short stacked. And rather than call it down he could go all in to get folding equity and to protect the hand from straights or overcards. But this is a somewhat dangerous board to do with the pair jacks out there.

AQ: 6 ways
KQ: 12 ways
QT: 12 ways
Q9: 12 ways
Q8: 12 ways
Q7: 12 ways

total: 66 ways

Other option is the semi bluff. There are only a few draws here that are primary draws. Namely T9 and KT. AK is only a gutshot draw and he could have reraised preflop although he could call too. Something like T8 or 89 with would produce inside straight draws too. I wouldn't really expect a semibluff from a solid or passive player here. I would only expect one from an aggressive player. I wouldn't expect an all in semibluff with the inside straight draw without a read.

Only if very aggressive:
T9: 16 ways
KT: 16 ways

As you can see with these assumptions there are 47 ways he could have you beat. And 72 ways he could have a pair of queens or kings.

So it is only like 1:1.75 (not including bluffs) that you have him beat assuming that he would bet them the same way. And not bet any other hands.

But with the betting going the way it went I would say he very likely has you beat. The one thing that bothers me is that he is short stacked. Your getting 1:2 pot odds approximately to see the hand to completion. You have 2 outs to win almost for certain. That gives you about 8.5% or 1:10.75 to draw out.

I notice that people don't really make that play short stacked - reraising all in early short stacked at this level as often as they should. I don't think too many players understand that play.

Without a read that he is very aggressive or a maniac or that he semi bluffs. Or that he would certainly reraise all in with a queen. I would probably lay down the hand because it isn't that unlikely for someone to have a jack as you might think.