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12-15-2005 11:37 PM

I\'ll tell you who wins the apprentice...
 
It's an hour and a half thru the show, and I'll tell you right now who wins.

This show is getting a little too predictable.

I'd put $5000 on BOTH of them winning. Thats right, Mr. Trump will hire them both - Randall and Rebecca. I guarantee this.

Let's see if i'm right!

surfinillini 12-15-2005 11:42 PM

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It's an hour and a half thru the show, and I'll tell you right now who wins.

This show is getting a little too predictable.

I'd put $5000 on BOTH of them winning. Thats right, Mr. Trump will hire them both - Randall and Rebecca. I guarantee this.

Let's see if i'm right!

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who cares

12-15-2005 11:48 PM

Re: I\'ll tell you who wins the apprentice...
 
your in the "Other Other Topics" forum, you are not gonna care about every post buddy

surfinillini 12-15-2005 11:51 PM

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your in the "Other Other Topics" forum, you are not gonna care about every post buddy

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yea, you've gotten tons of replies

guaranteed this will be the LAST ONE

12-15-2005 11:52 PM

Re: I\'ll tell you who wins the apprentice...
 
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It's an hour and a half thru the show, and I'll tell you right now who wins.

This show is getting a little too predictable.

I'd put $5000 on BOTH of them winning. Thats right, Mr. Trump will hire them both - Randall and Rebecca. I guarantee this.

Let's see if i'm right!

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who cares

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raises hand

Doc7 12-15-2005 11:57 PM

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you were right

edit: never mind

kipin 12-15-2005 11:57 PM

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You were close to right...

12-15-2005 11:58 PM

Re: I\'ll tell you who wins the apprentice...
 
yeah, thanks for your opinion buddy.

Looks like I was WRONG!! haha, well i woulda lost $5000

12-16-2005 12:00 AM

Re: I\'ll tell you who wins the apprentice...
 
Doc7, haha yeah, did u see that?? He asked Randall if he would hire her too, and he said no... If Randall had been a nice guy, he woulda hired her too. What a meanie.

NLSoldier 12-16-2005 12:07 AM

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I thought the exact same thing halfway through. I think randall is a total badass for not giving her the job. that took guts.

TomCollins 12-16-2005 12:08 AM

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I thought the exact same thing halfway through. I think randall is a total badass for not giving her the job. that took guts.

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He should have fired him for that, and hired her instead.

gorie 12-16-2005 12:14 AM

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BOO RANDALL !!! that was pretty stupid of him to say no to hiring both. it's like, dude you already won. what does it matter if she gets hired too considering they have 2 different projects anyway. what a jerk.

i thought it made him look pretty bad.

Paluka 12-16-2005 12:20 AM

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Losing the apprentice is probably better than winning. You can probably get a better job.

12-16-2005 12:25 AM

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Losing the apprentice is probably better than winning. You can probably get a better job.

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Dumb quote of the day. Winning gets you a guaranteed million and Trump is there to bounce ideas off of. Losing gets you sympathy points and a job as another run of the mill realty tv promoter.

surfinillini 12-16-2005 12:29 AM

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Losing the apprentice is probably better than winning. You can probably get a better job.

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Dumb quote of the day. Winning gets you a guaranteed 1/4million and Trump is there to bounce ideas off of. Losing gets you sympathy points and a job as another run of the mill realty tv promoter.

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FYP

mike l. 12-16-2005 03:02 AM

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"It's an hour and a half thru the show, and I'll tell you right now who wins."

i was predicting that 2 weeks ago.

the burn by randall at the end was sick. he made a complete ass of himself, it was very sad to see. that said, rebecca only came on good at the very end and coasted along until that point. alla wouldve been a much better apprentice than either of them.

dblgutshot 12-16-2005 03:05 AM

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What an [censored].
nigga, please!

tubalkain 12-16-2005 03:19 AM

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I thought the exact same thing halfway through. I think randall is a total badass for not giving her the job. that took guts.

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He should have shot him for that, and hired her instead.

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FYP. This was the biggest dick move ever on TV.

MrMon 12-16-2005 03:25 AM

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Alla proved herself to be the completely classless pole dancer that she really is tonight.

einbert 12-16-2005 03:30 AM

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your in the "Other Other Topics" forum, you are not gonna care about every post buddy

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yea, you've gotten tons of replies

guaranteed this will be the LAST ONE

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Just wanted to point out how wrong this turned out to be.

TimTimSalabim 12-16-2005 04:02 AM

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"it's not the apprentii"... classic. The guy can definitely think on his feet.

HiatusOver 12-16-2005 04:29 AM

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This is the first apprentice I saw the whole season, but I really think that dude came off as a huge [censored] when he said she shouldnt get the job. It seemed like he did it for selfish reasons too, not because he didnt like the chick...can u guys who watched the season clue me in on this situation a little more? Did the two of them ever have beef?

mike l. 12-16-2005 04:59 AM

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yeah but she's a tough broad. she'd chew up caroline and spit her out. nevertheless the pole dancer comment is very funny.

mike l. 12-16-2005 05:01 AM

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"Did the two of them ever have beef?"

never. it was all hugs kisses and mutual appreciation until the very end. trump really should have second guessed himself when randall made an ass of himself like that.

tubalkain 12-16-2005 05:59 AM

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Losing the apprentice is probably better than winning. You can probably get a better job.

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play meddling mage
name "pikula tells the truth" as the card that can't be played

12-16-2005 12:01 PM

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"Did the two of them ever have beef?"

never. it was all hugs kisses and mutual appreciation until the very end. trump really should have second guessed himself when randall made an ass of himself like that.

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This is wrong. He obviously is a smart guy. I would have done the same thing. He now works for Trump. Its his job to help Trump make good decisions. He believed that she was not the quality that Trump needed for the position, so he didnt want to give what he thought was bad advice to Donald. Instead of saying all this after the fact that he had won, he simply made it seem like there should only be one winner since it is called "The Apprentice". He didnt want to rub it in to Rebecca after winning in front of tons of people because that would make him look like an ass, so he blamed it on the show rules, which wouldnt come across nearly as bad. The guys a genius IMO.

12-16-2005 12:14 PM

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I saw it coming when trump said "This makes my decision easy" after they picked different projects. Then Randall screwed it all up.

MrMon 12-16-2005 01:30 PM

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yeah but she's a tough broad. she'd chew up caroline and spit her out. nevertheless the pole dancer comment is very funny.

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What's really funny is she really was a pole dancer.

The Smoking Gun

ononimo 12-16-2005 01:56 PM

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yeah but she's a tough broad. she'd chew up caroline and spit her out. nevertheless the pole dancer comment is very funny.

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What's really funny is she really was a pole dancer.

The Smoking Gun

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interesting read - i wonder how much of this, if any, was discovered by Trump/NBC during the background check.

MrMon 12-16-2005 02:02 PM

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"Did the two of them ever have beef?"

never. it was all hugs kisses and mutual appreciation until the very end. trump really should have second guessed himself when randall made an ass of himself like that.

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This is wrong. He obviously is a smart guy. I would have done the same thing. He now works for Trump. Its his job to help Trump make good decisions. He believed that she was not the quality that Trump needed for the position, so he didnt want to give what he thought was bad advice to Donald. Instead of saying all this after the fact that he had won, he simply made it seem like there should only be one winner since it is called "The Apprentice". He didnt want to rub it in to Rebecca after winning in front of tons of people because that would make him look like an ass, so he blamed it on the show rules, which wouldnt come across nearly as bad. The guys a genius IMO.

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If you call genius destroying your rep in two seconds of television time.

Two choices here, hire her or don't hire her.

Choice 1 - Hire Her. What do you lose? A bit of glory. Everyone already knows you "won". Allowing her to also get a job will take nothing away from you. She's going to have a different job than you. By being magnanimous, you enhance your nice guy rep, everyone already loves you, now they really will because you did the right thing.

Choice 2 - Don't Hire Her. Upside is all the glory. You already had that. Downside is huge. You worked for weeks to build a nice guy image. Now, even if you are correct, you appear like a dick. If you had merely won, no one would remember you in a few years. Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.

Sometimes there's a choice between being correct and doing the right thing. He might have been correct, but clearly, it wasn't the right thing to do. You only need to read the Apprentice message boards to know how much he destroyed his rep in just a few seconds. Reputations take a lifetime (or 13 weeks) to build and seconds to destroy. No amount of rationalization or explaining will ever get that back.

ononimo 12-16-2005 02:11 PM

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Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.

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i've never watched this show but, if Trump so clearly wanted to hire the woman, why didn't he offer her the job in the first place? or why didn't he overrule the guy when he said there should only be one hire?

Paluka 12-16-2005 02:15 PM

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Losing the apprentice is probably better than winning. You can probably get a better job.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dumb quote of the day. Winning gets you a guaranteed million and Trump is there to bounce ideas off of. Losing gets you sympathy points and a job as another run of the mill realty tv promoter.

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Let me get this straight, you think that winning gets them a super job from Donald Trump, but the person who comes in 2nd is incapable of getting a good job that pays $250k a year? If these people aren't good enough to get real jobs, Trump is never going to let them do anything either.

MrFeelNothin 12-16-2005 02:35 PM

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Choice 2 - Don't Hire Her. Upside is all the glory. You already had that. Downside is huge. You worked for weeks to build a nice guy image. Now, even if you are correct, you appear like a dick. If you had merely won, no one would remember you in a few years. Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.



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Why would he want to be forgotten? Who cares if people view him as a little bit of a hardass, he got a lot of attention for that move from people who never watch the show and that is a definite positive for his career. Who said being a little bit of an [censored] was a bad trait for the head of a company? The fact is, he made the smart move, she wouldn't have been a good hire.

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Sometimes there's a choice between being correct and doing the right thing. He might have been correct, but clearly, it wasn't the right thing to do. You only need to read the Apprentice message boards to know how much he destroyed his rep in just a few seconds. Reputations take a lifetime (or 13 weeks) to build and seconds to destroy. No amount of rationalization or explaining will ever get that back.

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Please dont ever reference the Apprentice message boards as an authority again.

MrMon 12-16-2005 02:37 PM

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Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.

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i've never watched this show but, if Trump so clearly wanted to hire the woman, why didn't he offer her the job in the first place? or why didn't he overrule the guy when he said there should only be one hire?

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Randall was clearly the better candidate on paper. Five degrees, including Ph.D from MIT, Rhodes scholar, runs his own consulting firm, everybody loved him. Minority, winning record, it would be hard NOT to hire him. But Rebecca was clearly a good candidate, no slouch with an economics degree from U. of Chicago, the toughest economics program in the country. And she did almost the entire competition on a broken ankle, while never losing her cool. At 23, she's clearly a superstar, but hasn't had the chance to accumulate the credentials a 34 year-old has. Candidates like her and Randall don't come along every day, so if you have the chance, you would take two.

Clearly he could have overruled if he chose. But on TV, the clock is everything and they just ran out of time. Plus, it was an unprecidented move, so I just think he gave him the choice, fully expecting he would say hire her too. On the Today show, Trump said 99% of people would have made the offer, so clearly he was surprised.

MrMon 12-16-2005 02:44 PM

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Choice 2 - Don't Hire Her. Upside is all the glory. You already had that. Downside is huge. You worked for weeks to build a nice guy image. Now, even if you are correct, you appear like a dick. If you had merely won, no one would remember you in a few years. Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.



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Why would he want to be forgotten? Who cares if people view him as a little bit of a hardass, he got a lot of attention for that move from people who never watch the show and that is a definite positive for his career. Who said being a little bit of an [censored] was a bad trait for the head of a company? The fact is, he made the smart move, she wouldn't have been a good hire.

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Sometimes there's a choice between being correct and doing the right thing. He might have been correct, but clearly, it wasn't the right thing to do. You only need to read the Apprentice message boards to know how much he destroyed his rep in just a few seconds. Reputations take a lifetime (or 13 weeks) to build and seconds to destroy. No amount of rationalization or explaining will ever get that back.

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Please dont ever reference the Apprentice message boards as an authority again.

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Being a hardass is one thing, being a dick is another. And clearly you don't understand the value of good publicity. Lots of people can do a particular job, being liked will often get you that job.

ononimo 12-16-2005 02:50 PM

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so if you have the chance, you would take two.

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that was my point - why didn't he just hire both instead of giving Randall the option? did Trump talk about that later?

Duke 12-16-2005 03:06 PM

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Losing the apprentice is probably better than winning. You can probably get a better job.

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Dumb quote of the day. Winning gets you a guaranteed million and Trump is there to bounce ideas off of. Losing gets you sympathy points and a job as another run of the mill realty tv promoter.

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Let me get this straight, you think that winning gets them a super job from Donald Trump, but the person who comes in 2nd is incapable of getting a good job that pays $250k a year? If these people aren't good enough to get real jobs, Trump is never going to let them do anything either.

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You're absolutely right, but if you spend half a year trying to get one job, you would probably prefer that to any old job that pays the same amount.

~D

MoreWineII 12-16-2005 03:17 PM

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Being a hardass is one thing, being a dick is another. And clearly you don't understand the value of good publicity. Lots of people can do a particular job, being liked will often get you that job.

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This is actually the first thing that went through my mind as I watched. I think Randall came off as a real tool.

MrFeelNothin 12-16-2005 03:33 PM

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Choice 2 - Don't Hire Her. Upside is all the glory. You already had that. Downside is huge. You worked for weeks to build a nice guy image. Now, even if you are correct, you appear like a dick. If you had merely won, no one would remember you in a few years. Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.



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Why would he want to be forgotten? Who cares if people view him as a little bit of a hardass, he got a lot of attention for that move from people who never watch the show and that is a definite positive for his career. Who said being a little bit of an [censored] was a bad trait for the head of a company? The fact is, he made the smart move, she wouldn't have been a good hire.

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Sometimes there's a choice between being correct and doing the right thing. He might have been correct, but clearly, it wasn't the right thing to do. You only need to read the Apprentice message boards to know how much he destroyed his rep in just a few seconds. Reputations take a lifetime (or 13 weeks) to build and seconds to destroy. No amount of rationalization or explaining will ever get that back.

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Please dont ever reference the Apprentice message boards as an authority again.

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Being a hardass is one thing, being a dick is another. And clearly you don't understand the value of good publicity. Lots of people can do a particular job, being liked will often get you that job.

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I understand the value of publicity. Which is what Randall is getting for his "dick" move.

MrFeelNothin 12-16-2005 03:36 PM

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Now, everyone will remember you as the dick who wouldn't hire her when the boss clearly wanted to.

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i've never watched this show but, if Trump so clearly wanted to hire the woman, why didn't he offer her the job in the first place? or why didn't he overrule the guy when he said there should only be one hire?

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Randall was clearly the better candidate on paper. Five degrees, including Ph.D from MIT, Rhodes scholar, runs his own consulting firm, everybody loved him. Minority, winning record, it would be hard NOT to hire him. But Rebecca was clearly a good candidate, no slouch with an economics degree from U. of Chicago, the toughest economics program in the country. And she did almost the entire competition on a broken ankle, while never losing her cool. At 23, she's clearly a superstar, but hasn't had the chance to accumulate the credentials a 34 year-old has. Candidates like her and Randall don't come along every day, so if you have the chance, you would take two.

Clearly he could have overruled if he chose. But on TV, the clock is everything and they just ran out of time. Plus, it was an unprecidented move, so I just think he gave him the choice, fully expecting he would say hire her too. On the Today show, Trump said 99% of people would have made the offer, so clearly he was surprised.

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So because 99% of people would have made the move that makes it correct?

99% of people are successful business owners?


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