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I am in SB with JhJs. Players at the table seem generally aggressive, no huge reads(im 4 tabling) AND WHY THE [censored] IS CONVERTER NOT WORKING.

Button raises, I 3 bet, Button calls

Flop 6d, 7s, 7d
I bet, button calls

Turn Ts
I bet, button raises, I call.

River Ah
I bet, button raises, I fold.

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I 3bet the turn everytime because he usually has Tx or like 55/ 88 etc. After your turn play, your river play is probably optimal against a predictable opponent who will check through with hands I listed in sentence 1 but not bluffraise a bet.

Your only read was that he is "generally aggressive." In my mind this means I cannot trust him enough to bet fold. A bluff with a busted spade draw or random KJ hands are possible.

The big problem is not 3betting the turn imo.

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I would have 3 bet the turn, if it wasn't a T. Just cuz 89 drew out too. If flop was 556, and turn was a T, I am definitely 3 betting. Is this good or bad?

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umm, you're putting him on 89?? There's like a gazillion other hands that you are ahead of. Plus 89 raises the flop the vast majority of the time. Like 90%

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what Im saying is his hand range is probably a T, a 7, or a 6 or 89, or some pp. I felt like my 3 betting equity is probably neutral if the turn card didnt help him hit a straight too. I dunno, I play these hands weird. I thought no hand could possibly bluff that ace. Maybe I'm wrong?

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what Im saying is his hand range is probably a T, a 7, or a 6 or 89, or some pp.

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Uh if that's his range it's an easy raise even if we don't discount 89 because he didn't raise the flop (which is definitely wrong). We are way above 2:1 against that range. What about a spade flush draw by the way? Or a diamond flush draw if you dont think OESDs raise the flop.

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so assuming i 3 bet the turn, river is easy bet/fold? what if he caps the turn? whats my plan

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if he caps call down . I don't fold no matter what the river is or what kind of ruckus ensues when you get there

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ok thanks. btw Im just curious to what ur WTSD % is

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36.someting

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I'm showing this down no matter what card hits the river. I don't do alot of 3-betting on the turn with one pair, but I would swim a river of sh!t to get the raise button one more time on this turn.

Cartman

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I would swim a river of sh!t to get the raise button one more time on this turn.

Cartman

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Unless he can raise ace high on the turn in these paired board spots, which is entirely possible, it doesnt seem all that likely for him to have the ace.

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Unless he can raise ace high on the turn in these paired board spots, which is entirely possible, it doesnt seem all that likely for him to have the ace.

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AT.

But yeah, I'd 3-bet the turn.

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of course its possible, as with a6, a7

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I bet/folded the river not thinking he had an ace. it was just that on the turn I decided to see a good river before I c/r. Unfortunately I thought an A was a scare card and he wouldn't follow through with a lot of hands that he originally would have. So I bet on the ace, which from villains perspective has to seem like I hit it, but if he raises he has to have an ace beat right? (or he outdrew with handsl ike AQ)

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I call the turn raise and checkraise any non-Ten river. Your turn 3-bet will fold him if he's on air, but he'll generally fire again on the river with air if you just call. He's always raising the turn with 7x, but might not 3-bet the river if a scare card comes (like a 3rd flush card), so you sometimes save yourself a bet.

However, when the Ace comes on the river I like your lead because it's the one card that might convince him to check behind. The fold seems OK when he raises, although I'm generally calling this.

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I call the turn raise and checkraise any non-Ten river. Your turn 3-bet will fold him if he's on air, but he'll generally fire again on the river with air if you just call. He's always raising the turn with 7x, but might not 3-bet the river if a scare card comes (like a 3rd flush card), so you sometimes save yourself a bet.

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There's more than half the cards in the deck I don't want to see on the river (any A,K,Q,T,9,8, or any [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). I'd hate to c/r any of these and be faced with a 3-bet. I'd rather 3-bet the turn too because he could be doing the ol' 'raise the turn for a free showdown' play.

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Im not sure why you want to bet the river. I would check and call the the river. You might induce a bluff from him and gain a bet and your not going to get a better hand than yours to fold so what do you gain by bettting? You might get bluffed off the best hand losing the whole pot. Downside is possibly losing one bet by just checking. I think checking and calling is the play here.