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Nomar 12-14-2005 10:58 PM

50-100 online, power thru ????
 
5 handed 50-100

utg limps, folded to me in SB, I have QQ no spade, I raise, bb and UTG call...

flop K104 2 spades, I bet BB raises, utg calls, I three bet both call...

board is so draw heavy plus the raise out the blind doesnt get any respect anyway, I must continue with hand, might as well be the aggressor imo..


turn 2 diamonds, I bet BB calls,

river J spades, I bet

pretty bad card, spades and 10-J get there, but I think a bet is better than a check ..
comments...

12-14-2005 11:17 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
[Is this a troll?] I think you could change your hand to 22 no spades and it would be just as good as this "power thru."

Bluff on the river is good. But the flop: UTG calling the BB's raise should make that the last $ you put in the pot on a monotone board. Maybe if it was rainbow you'd have a chance.

Nomar 12-14-2005 11:23 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
I was value betting river NOT bluffing

tongni 12-14-2005 11:24 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
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[Is this a troll?] I think you could change your hand to 22 no spades and it would be just as good as this "power thru."

Bluff on the river is good. But the flop: UTG calling the BB's raise should make that the last $ you put in the pot on a monotone board. Maybe if it was rainbow you'd have a chance.

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[Is this a troll?]

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DcifrThs 12-14-2005 11:33 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
what do you know about the bb?

Barron

Nomar 12-14-2005 11:37 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
no reads on any of them, highly doubt either of them can break even in the game.

I prolly screwed up the title of thread, because on the flop I thought there was a good enough chance my hand was good, so I wasnt really powering thru, I was continuing the aggression with what I thought was the best hand, if that makes any sense

SmileyEH 12-15-2005 12:34 AM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
http://www.mentorhuebnerart.com/imag...%20through.jpg

NateDog 12-15-2005 01:23 AM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
[ QUOTE ]
[Is this a troll?] I think you could change your hand to 22 no spades and it would be just as good as this "power thru."

Bluff on the river is good. But the flop: UTG calling the BB's raise should make that the last $ you put in the pot on a monotone board. Maybe if it was rainbow you'd have a chance.

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I'm confused, flop is 2 suited right? 2 spades?

HiatusOver 12-15-2005 01:35 AM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
I dont see much wrong with the hand...There are certainly players u can check the river against because they might check behind a K. The flop is fine if u think there is a good chance u have the best hand.

12-15-2005 02:45 AM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
Doh I saw three spades for some reason. I still sort of hate this line but not near as much.

12-15-2005 04:03 AM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
I like the line ONLY if BB is super aggressive and also willing to call you all the way down w/ QT, Tx, etc. On the river I think you're at the point of no return in what's a good pot however I think a check/call might work just as well as a bet. If you get raised you're likely sick and then what you fold? I think a check/call here works a little better IMHO.

12-15-2005 09:53 AM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
I absolutely hate, hate, hate the flop 3-bet. There's no purpose to it whatsoever. You say " I must continue with hand, might as well be the aggressor imo," but why? You certainly aren't getting a better hand to fold no matter what you do, so what benefit is there to being the aggressor in this situation? Doing this OUT OF POSITION is particularly bad because you really have no way to control the later streets or take a free card. Plus, if you really think there's some benefit to being the aggressor in this situation, or if you're worried that both are on draws and will take a free card that you don't want to give, just call the flop and bet out on the turn, at least that burns one less SB.

I prefer the call down and hope line myself, with a fold if either player raises either big bet street.

tpir90036 12-15-2005 03:08 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
wait a second.... what happened to UTG after the flop? i think the river is a quiet check and see if it really is 3-way on the river with the spades getting there and you still having two opponents (one of whom called two cold on the flop).

hard for me to come up with anything more concrete since i don't understand the action leading up to the river.

Nomar 12-15-2005 05:57 PM

Re: 50-100 online, power thru ????
 
UTG folded on the turn...


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