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waynethetrain 12-13-2005 08:50 PM

Posting the Big Blind
 
When I join a table, I really don't like to wait for most of an orbit before playing. So I post the BB. Unfortuately, I usually get tired and take a break after 60-90 minutes and then do the same thing when I play later in the day.

How much is this costing me over the long haul?

slipoker 12-13-2005 08:54 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
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How much is this costing me over the long haul?

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1 million.... no wait, 1 billion dollars.

waynethetrain 12-13-2005 08:57 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
Funny, but I'm curious about the impact on the hourly win rate.

12-13-2005 09:03 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
Obviously this depends on a lot of factors but if you do this once every 60-90 minutes and a good BB/hr rate for micros is 1-2 BB/hr you might be unnecessarily draining .5 BB every 60-90 minutes you do not have to. I'm too tired to try now but I'm sure you could filter PT to show how often you posted when not in SB, BB, or the CO and find out for sure any +/-EV.

Comments added in edit: I do not do this for the reason above. There are enough tables out there where you can take an extra 30 seconds to find an open seat where the blind will hit immed. or w/in 1-2 hands.

Greg J 12-13-2005 09:05 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
Calculate how much you make each hand by position in PT. That give you some theoretical idea of how much you loose by not waiting until yr utg hand. (You should be winner in every spot except the blinds, where no one wins.) Add this up and you should get yr number.

waynethetrain 12-13-2005 09:07 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
Thanks. It's probably not that big, but it must be enough to matter over the course of a year given that I do it so often.

waynethetrain 12-13-2005 09:15 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
I just noticed something weird in my stats. I only played about 35%-40% as many hands from the "7 from the blind" position as from all the other positions.

What could account for that?

Plus, is says I netted -$22 dollars from that position, but won .02BBs per hand. (I am winning very comfortably from everywhere else.)

What accounts for that?

12-13-2005 09:27 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
It's probably not costing you a lot, but believe it or not, that's one of the things I notice when I see someone sit down at a table - do they post the BB right away, showing impatience to get into the action, or do they wait for it to come around to them, studying the table in the meantime?

Take a guess which one I do... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

12-13-2005 09:28 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
I think you should always wait for the big blind. Plus it gives you a few hands to watch the other players.

Greg J 12-13-2005 09:32 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
Shorthanded tables. If a table is missing a few players it will who you having not played a hand x many places from the bb.

For yr other question, it's probably a combo of different limits and small sample size.

12-13-2005 09:33 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
I'll post right after joining a table if it is in late position. If my seat is in middle or early, I'll wait.

Eeegah 12-13-2005 09:58 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
My usual method is to post UTG, play one hand, then leave and find another table where I post UTG. Is this costing me money?

12-13-2005 10:01 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
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My usual method is to post UTG, play one hand, then leave and find another table where I post UTG. Is this costing me money?

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Not if you're being dealt AA each time you sit down. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Eeegah 12-13-2005 10:09 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
Whew, guess I'm in the clear then.

nomadtla 12-13-2005 10:14 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
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Whew, guess I'm in the clear then.

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I thought you were only dealt the eegahs then floping quad eegahs. Either way if you do that every hand it doesn't matter where you post from. Or your table selection for that matter.

12-13-2005 11:27 PM

Re: Posting the Big Blind
 
I don't know, I mean I'm sure it's not an incredibly significant amount. But it does add up over time and would be a -EV situation/play that you is totally unnecessary.

I like to wait a little for the blind to come around to gather information on my opponents. That is certainly, in the long run, going to be worth more than the occasional BB special.

TPK


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