My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Partypoker gave me back my $130 dollar they took from me on June or something, anyway I played an 109 and managed to make the money.( Im too lazy to edit all the hands sorry)

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $680 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2445 )
Seat 6: GoAhdSukOut ( $625 )
Seat 8: kram626 ( $1050 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $980 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9c 9h ]
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [680]

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1355 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1640 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2045 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2475 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9h 6d ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [200].
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, 5d ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [100].
D_Maybe folds.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2145 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1680 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jh As ]
D_Maybe folds.

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1545 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3225 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Qd Jc ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer raises [200].
birdie413 folds.
I_Changed calls [200].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9d, 8c ]
D_Maybe is all-In [905]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1505 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1880 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3665 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Td Kd ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [300].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Tc, Ts ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [150].
D_Maybe is all-In [1205]

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1955 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1435 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3590 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jc Th ]
birdie413 folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [1955]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $2180 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $840 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1955 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3440 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 6c 8s ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [350].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Qc ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

huh?

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Looks pretty bad overall.

I'm too lazy to reply further.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

I'm too la

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

99 hand - Eew. I think raising to 150 has a lot more value here, as you get to play against a lot of hands you're killing that way.

96 - Fold preflop. You have too few chips, your hand sucks and you're oop postflop.

AJ - Close, any way I think, but I'd raise this to 300 as you're six-handed.

QJ - I'd check-raise all in here.

KT - Preflop is okay but on the flop I'd just call or make a smaller raise, you're not giving your guy a lot of chances to give you chips. Sure it doesn't look like you've got a T but he'll have to have something pretty strong to call here, where as he needs nothing to fire away again on the turn.

JT - Not bad because you've got both blinds outchipped.

68 - Fold preflop. You keep wanting to play big pots with no hand out of position!

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Partypoker gave me back my $130 dollar they took from me on June or something, anyway I played an 109 and managed to make the money.( Im too lazy to edit all the hands sorry)

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $680 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2445 )
Seat 6: GoAhdSukOut ( $625 )
Seat 8: kram626 ( $1050 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $980 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9c 9h ]
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [680]

Make a standard raise. No point in pushing here.

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1355 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1640 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2045 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2475 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9h 6d ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [200].
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, 5d ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [100].
D_Maybe folds.

Very bad preflop call.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2145 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1680 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jh As ]
D_Maybe folds.

Raise this hand. If people are calling alot of raises then pushing here is better than folding.

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1545 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3225 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Qd Jc ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer raises [200].
birdie413 folds.
I_Changed calls [200].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9d, 8c ]
D_Maybe is all-In [905]

I fold this for 100 preflop.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1505 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1880 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3665 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Td Kd ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [300].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Tc, Ts ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [150].
D_Maybe is all-In [1205]

If you must play this hand at least don't try to blow him off his after you flop huge.

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1955 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1435 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3590 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jc Th ]
birdie413 folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [1955]

It's close but I don't think I like it.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $2180 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $840 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1955 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3440 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 6c 8s ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [350].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Qc ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks

Why would you call this?

Overall I think your game needs a lot of work. And I do not think you will make money at the $109s playing like this. Not everything I said may be spot on but I do know for sure that you need to stop calling raises out of the big blind with bad hands. You need to learn how to extract more value out of your monsters. And you need to brush up on your ICM a bit. Best of luck.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Did you type in the chat box, "I will not lay down my BB to a raise, but I will let you have the pot for even a min-bet after I have to play OOP for the rest of the hand." ???

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

1. Pushing is okay - if you don't want to have a flop for t150.
2. horrible. There is no reason to get cute because of the increased buyin.
3. I'd push 6 handed
4. Guess it's okay. I don't like calling off 100 here though
5. I might just call the flop. I don't care about the flushdraw
6. Don't like it
7. Horrible

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Ok after reading the comments here is my reply.

I think my 99 push is "ok", Im not very good at playing the flop anyway.
The 96 hand isnt entirely horrible I think my odds arent that bad, but I guess that a fold is better.
The AJo hand is kinda tricky, I just dont like pushing into 5 oponents with 11x the BB. I think its a close one, I just feel unconfortable betting 300.
I will defend my QJo hand, I think I played it just fine. I have enough odds to see a flop. After I hit I simply cant manage to give a free card, betting 300 and getting called doesnt excite me so I simply prefer to push.
The KT hand shows my inexperience in this big buy-in thing, I should have called instead of pushing, however I think a preflop call is fine and so is the check considering the 96 hand.
I thought the JT hand over and over( when I was playing) and simply pushed hoping the other guys would fold almost everything since I had them outchipped. I think its close.
The 86 hand was a play I made because I was all excited about the KT hand. Another inexperienced play.

Overall I made a lot of mistakes, I also didnt post an horrible hand I played early on. I agree I cant beat this thing, but I will keep trying [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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I think my 99 push is "ok", Im not very good at playing the flop anyway.

The AJo hand is kinda tricky, I just dont like pushing into 5 oponents with 11x the BB. I think its a close one, I just feel unconfortable betting 300.

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Why do you feel uncomfortable pushing with 11x the BB with AJ but will push with 13x the BB into 5 oppoenents with 99?

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

I feel unconforable betting 3x the BB. I didnt push AJ because I thought it was -EV.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $680 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2445 )
Seat 6: GoAhdSukOut ( $625 )
Seat 8: kram626 ( $1050 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $980 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9c 9h ]
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [680]

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I would probably make it 150, but this is fine.

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Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1355 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1640 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2045 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2475 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9h 6d ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [200].
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, 5d ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [100].
D_Maybe folds.

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Fold Preflop

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Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2145 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1680 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jh As ]
D_Maybe folds.

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I would probably fold 1/2 the time and push the other 1/2.

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Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1545 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3225 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Qd Jc ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer raises [200].
birdie413 folds.
I_Changed calls [200].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9d, 8c ]
D_Maybe is all-In [905]



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I might just fold, The min raise is suspicious. Flop play is good.

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Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1505 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1880 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3665 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Td Kd ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [300].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Tc, Ts ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [150].
D_Maybe is all-In [1205]



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I would fold preflop. Flop maybe slowplay more.
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Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1955 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1435 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3590 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jc Th ]
birdie413 folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [1955]



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Wow. Fold preflop for sure. This is a bad play.

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Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $2180 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $840 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1955 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3440 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 6c 8s ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [350].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Qc ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks

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I can tell you like to defend but stop defending with any 2 cards. This is such a clear fold it's not even close. Stop defending you BB, you'll get crushed in the long run if you don't.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

I'm on a text browser so I'm not going to go over each hand now. I think z32 said just about what I'd say, except I'm pretty unlikely to fold the AJ hand.

I certainly don't know exactly what your situation is, but I'm going to risk being a condescending jerk and say something anyway.

You probably need to fix a few things, but I think you will successfully move up through the levels as long as you can come up with a solid bankroll plan and stick to it 100%.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

I don't think OP has the banroll skills to beat poker longterm.

Hmm, I found $130 so I will play a 109. A good player could take that $130, grind out $5 or $10 games and build a bankroll to play the 109s in a couple months.

Just my opinion.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

I agree. I didn't even go near the $109s til I had 100 buyins. Maybe that's a bit extreme, but it's how I wanted to do things.

And as usual I agree with micro, I would also push AJ there, it's just too strong not to. The JT.. well.. it's "okay" as the guy in SB is pretty tight from memory, but never seen the BB before so can't comment, but it's rather thin on $EV terms anyways even if they both call with almost nothing.

I tell a lie. I've seen him once, for 19 hands in which he played one being 66.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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I don't think OP has the banroll skills to beat poker longterm.

Hmm, I found $130 so I will play a 109. A good player could take that $130, grind out $5 or $10 games and build a bankroll to play the 109s in a couple months.

Just my opinion.

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I don't see any real harm in playing a single $109 to see what the experience is like, if it's not critical to one's bankroll. None of us knows how much $109 is to OP. Now, if he makes a habit of playing the $109s before he's ready, that's another story, but there's no evidence of that. He just had a night out, had a little fun with the "big boys".

I went out to dinner with my wife a while back and spent over $109. Does that poor bankroll management mean I'll never be able to play the $109s?

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

You haven't seen his other posts have you?

I think $109 is A LOT to the OP.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

We may be wrong, but some of us guess that $109 is a lot to this 16 or 17 year old Chilean kid who has at least once before lost most of his bankroll by playing bigger games than he usually played. One of us even feels guilty for encouraging him to do it at the time. At least I'm not the vulture who profited off of his troubles, am I, Maulik?

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

How did he profit from it? I missed that story.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Quite a while back Val posted that he was going to take a shot at the $55s with a small, but not crazy-small bankroll. He said he was going to do it. I didn't advise him to. Anyway, I bet a case of beer that he would succeed. I don't remember how we defined success. Maulik took the bet and unfortunately he won. Fortunately he accepted money and I didn't have to ship beer to him.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

The best part was how cocky he was about how easy poker is to win at but he clearly sux0rs lol.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

aghh converter!

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Now now children. Yes, he can be cocky, but he's a teenage boy. That's the way they (you?) are supposed to be.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Everyone is making a big fuss out of nowhere.
I want to get some facts straight.
1)I have invested exactly $0 on this poker thing. No books, no programs, no deposits . ( Electricity is paid by my parents)
2)Would you people make a big fuss if I announced " Im quitting poker and Im buying a playstation 4 with all my money" no you wouldnt so why make a bigg fuss if I want to spend all my money playing 109s.
3)After all Im not such an horrible player because if I was I wouldnt have the bankroll to play the games I regularly play(16 dollar turbos)

Anyway considering that, this is why I played an 109.

On June PP took away my bankroll and I was left with zero money( i got 25 bux from some dude I met online, he worked for one of those sites that give away money), I did some research and found out empirebacker was giving away 25 dollars, I turned those 25 dollars into a grand mainly because I suck at poker. So I withdrew those 1000 dollaes to an account of my sister so I wouldnt get screwed again.( she knows about it, she even plays poker..no lectures plz)
I deposited my grand on stars and started playing turbos.( however I lost a portion of my br playing mtts ) A few weeks ago, partypoker called me telling me that they were giving me my money back. Today for no reason at all decided that I wanted to play with my party account, however I have a crappy PC that only allows 2 party tables at a time(however it allows like 10 stars tbls, ive mentioned on ohter posts ive made)AND I will have to transfer this money to another party account so why dont I singletable the 109s instead. Im willing to take a gamble.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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I went out to dinner with my wife a while back and spent over $109. Does that poor bankroll management mean I'll never be able to play the $109s?

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Worst. Analogy. Ever.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

Something I noticed, there seemed to be a lot of min raises when OP was on his BB. Are these common at the $109s?

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

No, not overly. There are donks at the $109s too, y'know.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

There's definitely nothing wrong with taking shots.

You should gamble it up some in the 109s tonight.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

yea?? you gonna be playin those 109s tonight as well bones, lol

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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I went out to dinner with my wife a while back and spent over $109. Does that poor bankroll management mean I'll never be able to play the $109s?

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Worst. Analogy. Ever.

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I was unaware of previous instances of bankroll mismanagement.

But, I stand by my position that there are many kinds of frivolous spending. Even if this poster's spending was something other than merely frivolous.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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I went out to dinner with my wife a while back and spent over $109. Does that poor bankroll management mean I'll never be able to play the $109s?

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Worst. Analogy. Ever.

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I was unaware of previous instances of bankroll mismanagement.

But, I stand by my position that there are many kinds of frivolous spending. Even if this poster's spending was something other than merely frivolous.

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If he's spending on entertainment then he doesn't have a bankroll to manage in the first place. I was going to go on... but this is ridiculous.

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 

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We may be wrong, but some of us guess that $109 is a lot to this 16 or 17 year old Chilean kid who has at least once before lost most of his bankroll by playing bigger games than he usually played. One of us even feels guilty for encouraging him to do it at the time. At least I'm not the vulture who profited off of his troubles, am I, Maulik?


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Quite a while back Val posted that he was going to take a shot at the $55s with a small, but not crazy-small bankroll. He said he was going to do it. I didn't advise him to. Anyway, I bet a case of beer that he would succeed. I don't remember how we defined success. Maulik took the bet and unfortunately he won. Fortunately he accepted money and I didn't have to ship beer to him.

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Please refrain from besmirching my name without outlining the specific wager we made. I do not have those terms in front of me and unfortunately not able to find them via achieve. This reference also feels like a cheap-shot. My intention was not to root against valenzuela or any 2+2’r to fail; I derive no such satisfaction.

I was not trying to encourage valenzuela to do that for which he was neither equipped nor bankrolled. Please do not construe this past bet as such. Your intentions were good, however you could have simply suggest he run well. If his bankroll were easily replenished we would have no argument.