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Sorry I have no link. But ESPN says both sides want to get him out of Indy.

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please trade hughes for him.

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Link here.



From the story:

Artest, who destroyed one potential championship season and now may derail a second, has demanded a trade out of Indiana. On Monday, the Pacers said they would oblige, marking the official beginning of the end of a relationship that had gone too long with lopsided loyalty.

In hindsight, even Bird will have to agree that it made no sense. Sticking with Artest after last season's 73-game suspension for charging into the stands at the Palace of Auburn Hills was risky.

Artest told the Indianapolis Star, he wants to be traded in part because he doesn't feel he can maximize his offensive talents under coach Rick Carlisle's structured offense. Being the second leading scorer on a title contender apparently isn't enough.

But his most telling comment dealt with the question everyone had already asked: Wouldn't a change do everyone good?

"I still think my past haunts me here," Artest said. "I think somewhere else I'm starting fresh. I'm coming in with baggage, but people already know about it and how I'm going to be."



On ESPN today:

What Artest said: I'm not like Michael Jordan or Larry Bird or those guys. I just gotta be me.

What I heard: I'm not a team player, and never will be. I'm just a self-centered, over-paid, immature jerk, and I like it.

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Wow way to take it out of context ESPN. I watched the clip and what he said did not look bad at all. It seemed to me like he was just depressed about something. He wanted to blame himself for the team's downfall.

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espn has creative editing, i dont understand why athletes even do interviews with these guys just destroying the context and making everything sound way worse. they were doing the same thing to an aaron brooks interview, they made him sound like rich and spoiled, when he really was taking a [censored] on the saints organization which they somehow totally omitted (interview was on the radio and i heard it all) espn is such GOD-DAMNED GARBAGE now. they try to make everything a huge drama production

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LeBron James said, "Any team in this league could use a guy like Ron Artest."
-USA Today

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perhaps after the popularity of their poker broadcasts they are attempting to transfer the same techniques to real sports. gross, regardless.

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On the one hand he's mentally ill so the team has to take what he says with a grain of salt.

On the other hand the Pacers management and staff stood behind Artest 100% when they could have easily gotten rid of him. If I was a team mate I'd feel seriously betrayed.

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Artest for Marbury, all problems are solved.

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From the ESPN article:

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"I'm not going to answer any more questions about Ron Artest," said Jermaine O'Neal on Monday. "Ron doesn't want to be here, so Ron doesn't matter anymore."



O'Neal gave up 15 games, a possible championship and a good chunk of his reputation for Artest. He looked done with his teammate a long, long time ago.

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The Pacers don't wamt or need Marbury. He solves nothing for the Pacers. Its not like they are just going to give Artest away, much less to the Knicks of all teams.

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The Pacers don't wamt or need Marbury. He solves nothing for the Pacers.

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If by "nothing" you mean "horrible point guard play so far this season," then yes, he solves nothing.

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The most valid point to this story is that Artest is very tradeable. For a player of his skill he is underpaid (in NBA temrs), but it will be difficult for the Pacers to get a player of his caliber without breaking the bank. So, "very tradable" means many teams could show interest. However, it will be hard to get max value in return.