Another hand from 2+2 table last night....
 

The table has been very aggressive but no real retarded aggression (an occassional 3 bet PF with Q7). I've been running bad and had to laydown several hands I raised PF to turn bets and raises. We're showing hands, and my folds have mostly been correct, but I probably have a weak post flop image.

UTG is Spicymoose.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Spicy raises</font>, <font color="#666666">jba and Scotty34 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">Kentock Folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Spicy caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Spicy bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Spicy bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River plan? Do I beat anything Spicy caps preflop?

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Hmm, I forget what I had. I could potentially have ATs in this spot though. There are too many hands that beat you though.

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I would have bet the flop.

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Why don't you check-raise the flop? You have two good backdoor draws and two overcards. If he 3-bets you, you can check-fold the turn UI.

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I would have bet the flop.

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Yep, given the table conditions I should have.

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Hmm, I forget what I had. I could potentially have ATs in this spot though. There are too many hands that beat you though.

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You really could have ATs here? You would cap a TAG 3bet from the SB with this hand? Is this something you would do at a standard table against a TAG, or is it in your range because its a 2+2 table?

FWIW, I think I might like a flop c/r since AQ and AK are definately possibilities here and you might be able to get them to fold w/ a turn bet.

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I would have bet the flop.

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Yep, given the table conditions I should have.

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I think check raising me on the flop is better. I get put in a tough spot with a ton of my holdings.

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You really could have ATs here? You would cap a TAG 3bet from the SB with this hand? Is this something you would do at a standard table against a TAG, or is it in your range because its a 2+2 table?

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I was playing slightly LAGGier then normal, and also Sparky was running really bad, and I felt I could run over him.

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"I was playing slightly LAGGier then normal"

oh man I just looked this hand up

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"I was playing slightly LAGGier then normal"

oh man I just looked this hand up

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I hope I didn't have T9s

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I'll post results soon.

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n/m

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I would have bet the flop.

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Yep, given the table conditions I should have.

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I think check raising me on the flop is better. I get put in a tough spot with a ton of my holdings.

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Actually yes, I agree this would be much better than betting out.

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I'm glad everyone agrees with me, yet doesn't quote me. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Check-raising a preflop capper is pure gold.

Results...
 

I agree with everyone that a checkraise here is the best play on the flop.

We both checked the river. Spicy showed A9o and MHIG.

I typed, "I don't think I call a river bet."
Spicy typed, "You better."

The hand stuck with me, because I couldn't put Spicy on any hand that I beat by the river. I guess I needed to factor the trying-to-runover-a-player-running-bad into his range. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Why don't you check-raise the flop? You have two good backdoor draws and two overcards. If he 3-bets you, you can check-fold the turn UI.

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I like this idea.

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Actually, I just noticed he has three backdoor draws. I missed the wheel draw.

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Why don't you check-raise the flop? You have two good backdoor draws and two overcards. If he 3-bets you, you can check-fold the turn UI.

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I like this idea.

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Oh, its too late for that...now you're just trying to suck up. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Oh, its too late for that...now you're just trying to suck up. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Like there's any reason to suck up to me. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Like there's any reason to suck up to me.

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Naw. You clearly had the right line first, I just thought it was funny that he came back and quoted you after you pointed it out.

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Agreed. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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i c/r the flop here buddy. river looks like a c/f.

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There are too many hands that beat you though.

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the way it was played he really has no idea where hes at. either way he usually has 7-10 outs on the flop here, as many as any good draw. He should c/r here.

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Fold the turn

Edit: Second best, bet the turn and fold to a raise. I think bet/fold is better than check/call.