![]() |
Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
SB (t1115) Hero (t4520) UTG (t753) Button (t1612) Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Button calls t753, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t253. Flop: (t1756) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t500</font>, Hero calls t500. Turn: (t2756) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, Hero calls t359. River: (t3115) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Final Pot: t3115 |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
Call 253 to win 2256 if I counted correctly. Almost 10-1. I'd say it's worth it.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
No the FD on the flop.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
I'm essentially getting 3:1 to call right? That's how I should be thinking about it?
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
Oh, my bad. Still it's call 500 to win 2756. That's still 5.5-1. Still worth it.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
I think its standard, with your stack. If I'm one of the other stacks I'm not playing this like this at all.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
[ QUOTE ]
I'm essentially getting 3:1 to call right? That's how I should be thinking about it? [/ QUOTE ] The converter always messes up the pot size when there is an all in. If you add it up by hand, you get a different number. And better odds for you. |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
I'm thinking it's worth it even without proper odds. I guess that's really the question I'm asking.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
Do yourself a favor and produce some FE by pushing the flop.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
[ QUOTE ]
Do yourself a favor and produce some FE by pushing the flop. [/ QUOTE ] You mean for the purposes of keeping the bubble alive? I suppose that would have it's advantages.....not sure if I would do it though. |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
I like this hand here. I think the button was silly for betting out unless he already had a big hand...it would be stupid for him to try to bluff you off this pot. your stack is so big here that i think you can try to knock em both out with little regret if you lose the hand.
I am curious what Button raised with after the flop.... |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
check-calling this flop is awful because of how high of a % of your stack it is and you are going to be pot committed to call a push on the turn if a non club hits.
Open pushing here is by far the most +EV move. You don't want to race but if you must you should at least be the first into the pot. FWIW I think pushing preflop is probably more +EV than calling and open pushing when you hit your draw. EDIT: NVM, I misread the hand and didn't see that UTG was all in. I was wondering what the deal with the button's raise was. But yah I'd check-call a push/bet on this flop and open push the turn when I hit. |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
[ QUOTE ]
FWIW I think pushing preflop is probably more +EV than calling and open pushing when you hit your draw. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to hear more of why you think so. I don't think it's true. But I've been wrong before.... |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
No you are right, I misread the hand. I would just check/call a push or c/r to get all the chips in on the flop though. I mean its not like you can fold a flushdraw being the big stack getting 4:1.
|
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
[ QUOTE ]
I'm thinking it's worth it even without proper odds. I guess that's really the question I'm asking. [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to answer my own question, in order to get some discussion. Let's say I'm getting less than 3:1 to chase my draw. Is it worth it (I'm guessing it is) to chase because of the enormous advantage I will have if I win. In otherwords, the gain is so so much more than the loss. |
Re: Do you think this call is worth it? ($33)
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I'm thinking it's worth it even without proper odds. I guess that's really the question I'm asking. [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to answer my own question, in order to get some discussion. Let's say I'm getting less than 3:1 to chase my draw. Is it worth it (I'm guessing it is) to chase because of the enormous advantage I will have if I win. In otherwords, the gain is so so much more than the loss. [/ QUOTE ] I think you just answered your own question... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:45 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.