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Chris Daddy Cool 12-11-2005 03:51 PM

Party blackjack
 
I don't think there is a poster on this forum that has lost more than me at Party Blackjack, that includes El Diablo.

DcifrThs 12-11-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
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I don't think there is a poster on this forum that has lost more than me at Party Blackjack, that includes El Diablo.

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#s please.

Barron

MarkL444 12-11-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
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I don't think there is a poster on this forum that has lost more than me at Party Blackjack, that includes El Diablo.

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i dont mean to be a jerk but thats just pathetic. ITS BLACKJACK. YOURE GOING TO LOSE.

Diplomat 12-11-2005 04:13 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
I'm fairly sure you are over-estimating the amount he's lost, but with that said, let's hear some numbers. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

-Diplomat

Ulysses 12-11-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
You sure?

Chris Daddy Cool 12-11-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Hi Mark,

Die.

Chris

Chris Daddy Cool 12-11-2005 04:17 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
wow. okay nevermind.

but if you include party blackjack with other blackjack, then i still claim this title.

ActionJeff 12-11-2005 04:40 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
the reason you are losing is because you do not understand the mathematics of blackjack, which is actually a profitable game if approached appropriately:

ON BLACKJACK (excerpt from How to Theoretically Beat Blackjack Using Logical Fallacies by Aaron Been and Jeffrey R. Garza)

The most important factor at work here is Reverse Gambler's Ruin which allows us to construct an infinite sequence of winning sessions. The construction works as follows: Take the outcome space for a session of gambling. The dimensions of this space are going to be isomorphic to a space constrained by the length of session, the amount wagered, and the standard deviation. If you assume a normal distribution you can map the outcome space onto a set of wager possibilities and find a optimal betting strategy. The key is that this mapping preserves order so we can scale our betting increments. If we define a new ordering by the inverse of profitability then we have our infinite sequence. The only problem? It violates well ordering.

However, the well ordering principle is axiom independent if we are operating in ZF set theory. Thus Godel's incompleteness implies our sequence is valid, and the triumph of man over reason is inevitable.

12-11-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Any admitted excessive -EV-game-plyers should be automatically downgraded to newbie.

shant 12-12-2005 05:03 AM

Re: Party blackjack
 
You obviously should be staking me at Party blackjack instead.

12-12-2005 05:25 AM

Re: Party blackjack
 
[ QUOTE ]
the reason you are losing is because you do not understand the mathematics of blackjack, which is actually a profitable game if approached appropriately:

ON BLACKJACK (excerpt from How to Theoretically Beat Blackjack Using Logical Fallacies by Aaron Been and Jeffrey R. Garza)

The most important factor at work here is Reverse Gambler's Ruin which allows us to construct an infinite sequence of winning sessions. The construction works as follows: Take the outcome space for a session of gambling. The dimensions of this space are going to be isomorphic to a space constrained by the length of session, the amount wagered, and the standard deviation. If you assume a normal distribution you can map the outcome space onto a set of wager possibilities and find a optimal betting strategy. The key is that this mapping preserves order so we can scale our betting increments. If we define a new ordering by the inverse of profitability then we have our infinite sequence. The only problem? It violates well ordering.

However, the well ordering principle is axiom independent if we are operating in ZF set theory. Thus Godel's incompleteness implies our sequence is valid, and the triumph of man over reason is inevitable.

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This is interesting, but I really don't understand the first sentence.

ur2god 12-12-2005 09:00 AM

Re: Party blackjack
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the reason you are losing is because you do not understand the mathematics of blackjack, which is actually a profitable game if approached appropriately:

ON BLACKJACK (excerpt from How to Theoretically Beat Blackjack Using Logical Fallacies by Aaron Been and Jeffrey R. Garza)

The most important factor at work here is Reverse Gambler's Ruin which allows us to construct an infinite sequence of winning sessions. The construction works as follows: Take the outcome space for a session of gambling. The dimensions of this space are going to be isomorphic to a space constrained by the length of session, the amount wagered, and the standard deviation. If you assume a normal distribution you can map the outcome space onto a set of wager possibilities and find a optimal betting strategy. The key is that this mapping preserves order so we can scale our betting increments. If we define a new ordering by the inverse of profitability then we have our infinite sequence. The only problem? It violates well ordering.

However, the well ordering principle is axiom independent if we are operating in ZF set theory. Thus Godel's incompleteness implies our sequence is valid, and the triumph of man over reason is inevitable.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is interesting, but I really don't understand the first sentence.

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i couldnt understand teh first word

12-12-2005 11:39 AM

Re: Party blackjack
 
BJ strategy engine: link

NLfool 12-12-2005 12:14 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
I think I can top you with combined losses at party BJ and paradise. BTW max bet at paradise is 300 vs the 200 at party.

Chris Daddy Cool 12-12-2005 12:21 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
if you combine party with paradise i will combine with pokerroom and eurobet where i think i would have you crushed.

DoomSlice 12-12-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
T-he?
Th-e?
T-h-e?
Tehehe.

TheWorstPlayer 12-12-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
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if you combine party with paradise i will combine with pokerroom and eurobet where i think i would have you crushed.

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WE NEED NUMBERS! WITHOUT THEM THIS THREAD SUCKS! QUIT BOASTING AND BACK THAT A$$ UP!

Chris Daddy Cool 12-12-2005 01:18 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
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WE NEED NUMBERS! WITHOUT THEM THIS THREAD SUCKS! QUIT BOASTING AND BACK THAT A$$ UP!

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$ _ _, _ _ _

TheWorstPlayer 12-12-2005 01:36 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Is that Party? Eurobet? Combined? What's the first digit? Give it +-10K or 20K if you want. Otherwise, how is he supposed to know if his Party+Paradise beats your Party+Eurobet?

Chris Daddy Cool 12-12-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
party's first digit = $ 1 _, _ _ _ , though it is closer to 2 than 1 when you round.

combined online blackjacking i am almost too afraid to say. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

TheWorstPlayer 12-12-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Now we're getting somewhere. Does total online blackjack losses more closely approximate 2X or 4X where X = your Party losses. I hear that NLfool is closely tracking 3X.

GuyOnTilt 12-12-2005 03:52 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
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party's first digit = $ 1 _, _ _ _ , though it is closer to 2 than 1 when you round.

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Probably the longest way ever to say "$15k-$20k". [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

GoT

TheWorstPlayer 12-12-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Also probably one of the stupidest ways ever to blow 15-20K, but if we bring these things up they won't continue to dish the dirt and we will all lose out.

nebben 12-12-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Realistically, Party dealer probably had blackjack every third hand, seperated by dealer 20s. The poor guy almost certainly lost everything in what is most likely a 99 percent hA game.

12-12-2005 07:28 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
<---$1_,_ _ _.00

TheWorstPlayer 12-12-2005 08:04 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
You registered for this post? Awesome first post. But we need to know the results if you combine Party, Paradise, and Eurobet. And also whether or not digit number 2 is closer to 9 or closer to 1. Thanks for joining this thread though. You make my pathetic bad run at poker more bearable.

WackityWhiz 12-12-2005 09:07 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
i'm down 1,00_,_00

i just won't be exact, cuz it's kinda embarrassing

beset7 12-12-2005 09:29 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
I played 200 a hand for an hour and broke-even. PWN3d!

12-12-2005 10:05 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
im still positive at party blackjack =)

LotsOfOuts69 12-13-2005 04:15 AM

Re: Party blackjack
 
Feeling lucky?

See the top 100 players in the Blackjack World Series below, and find out how you’ve done. If you’re not listed, there’s still time to play for your entry to the cruise of a lifetime.

Page last updated: Monday December 12, 2005 07.00am EST

Next update will be available at (December 14, 2005)





Rank Partial Account name 'Home Runs' accumulated
1 Chuck….. 17,500

BTW, a home run means you wagered $100

So that means this guy has wagered 1.75 million dollars on party poker blackjack in 3 days.

Maybe he is up. Maybe.

12-13-2005 05:03 AM

Re: Party blackjack
 
[ QUOTE ]
Feeling lucky?

See the top 100 players in the Blackjack World Series below, and find out how you’ve done. If you’re not listed, there’s still time to play for your entry to the cruise of a lifetime.

Page last updated: Monday December 12, 2005 07.00am EST

Next update will be available at (December 14, 2005)





Rank Partial Account name 'Home Runs' accumulated
1 Chuck….. 17,500

BTW, a home run means you wagered $100

So that means this guy has wagered 1.75 million dollars on party poker blackjack in 3 days.

Maybe he is up. Maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]
When Chuck Norris plays BJ the dealer always busts.

jonnyd 12-13-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Feeling lucky?

See the top 100 players in the Blackjack World Series below, and find out how you’ve done. If you’re not listed, there’s still time to play for your entry to the cruise of a lifetime.

Page last updated: Monday December 12, 2005 07.00am EST

Next update will be available at (December 14, 2005)





Rank Partial Account name 'Home Runs' accumulated
1 Chuck….. 17,500

BTW, a home run means you wagered $100

So that means this guy has wagered 1.75 million dollars on party poker blackjack in 3 days.

Maybe he is up. Maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]
When Chuck Norris plays BJ the dealer always busts.

[/ QUOTE ]

hahaha

jman220 12-13-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
[ QUOTE ]
Feeling lucky?

See the top 100 players in the Blackjack World Series below, and find out how you’ve done. If you’re not listed, there’s still time to play for your entry to the cruise of a lifetime.

Page last updated: Monday December 12, 2005 07.00am EST

Next update will be available at (December 14, 2005)





Rank Partial Account name 'Home Runs' accumulated
1 Chuck….. 17,500

BTW, a home run means you wagered $100

So that means this guy has wagered 1.75 million dollars on party poker blackjack in 3 days.

Maybe he is up. Maybe.

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The maximum wager in Party BJ is what, $200? That means He's played about 8000 hands of blackjack (can't be exact because of splits and dd's). This means he should be very close to expectation, having such a large sample size. Assuming a .5% HA (and I know party's is larger because of the hitting soft 17's), His expectation is -$8,750.

Justin A 12-13-2005 05:56 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
No offense but you guys are a bunch of sick compulsive gamblers.

Chris Daddy Cool 12-13-2005 06:27 PM

FINALLY TALLY
 
[ QUOTE ]
No offense but you guys are a bunch of sick compulsive gamblers.

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This is very true.

Before finally reaching into the Party folder and getting rid of anything rleated to blackjack, I've lost probably $20,000 in that game since its conception.

And if you include other sites such as pokerroom and eurobet and various online casinos I've tried to bonus whore (as well as live play) my blackjack losses for the past year and a half is between 50 to 60k. That's how sick I am, I don't even know how far between thsoe two numbers.

Add that to the fact that I am still trying to recover from a $80k+ poker downswing, you have a very sad homiehomie.

Ulysses 12-13-2005 06:41 PM

Re: FINALLY TALLY
 
homie,

Maybe you should consider another line of work.

Seriously,
El Diablo

Chris Daddy Cool 12-13-2005 06:46 PM

Re: FINALLY TALLY
 
[ QUOTE ]
homie,

Maybe you should consider another line of work.

Seriously,
El Diablo

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i have never claimed to be or wnated to be a poker pro, precisely because i am very retarded.

Ulysses 12-13-2005 07:09 PM

Re: FINALLY TALLY
 
homie,

Oh, nm then. I thought you were a poker pro.

Carry on,
El Diablo

2+2 wannabe 12-13-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Party blackjack
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Feeling lucky?

See the top 100 players in the Blackjack World Series below, and find out how you’ve done. If you’re not listed, there’s still time to play for your entry to the cruise of a lifetime.

Page last updated: Monday December 12, 2005 07.00am EST

Next update will be available at (December 14, 2005)





Rank Partial Account name 'Home Runs' accumulated
1 Chuck….. 17,500

BTW, a home run means you wagered $100

So that means this guy has wagered 1.75 million dollars on party poker blackjack in 3 days.

Maybe he is up. Maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]
When Chuck Norris plays BJ the dealer always busts.

[/ QUOTE ]

AHAHAAHHAHAAHAA


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