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12-11-2005 03:28 AM

SnGs for a living
 
It seems that most pros play money games, but do any of you (pro and non-pro) strictly play SnGs? If so, at what buy in and do you multitable SnGs?

12-11-2005 03:36 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
There is a whole forum just for SnGs here...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...rd=singletable

RED_RAIN 12-11-2005 04:37 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
Best SnG person I know is ZeeJustin by far.

TheBlueMonster 12-11-2005 04:59 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
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It seems that most pros play money games, but do any of you (pro and non-pro) strictly play SnGs? If so, at what buy in and do you multitable SnGs?

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I can safely assume you mean cash games. I can't imagine it being profitable without multi-tabling.

deacsoft 12-11-2005 11:57 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
I needed a change of pace a while back and played nothing but SNGs on-line for about a month. I multi-tabled 3 to 6 tables and I made some serious loot over that time. I played anywhere from 20+2 to 50+5 on party.

DcifrThs 12-11-2005 03:59 PM

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I needed a change of pace a while back and played nothing but SNGs on-line for about a month. I multi-tabled 3 to 6 tables and I made some serious loot over that time. I played anywhere from 20+2 to 50+5 on party.

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what do you define as serious loot?

Barron

deacsoft 12-11-2005 04:21 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
On average I've made about $1300 per full week in SNGs. I think that's not too bad considering the buy-ins are low. However, "serious loot" may be considered an overstatement.

aLOWdAkING 12-11-2005 05:27 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
How many did you play a week?

Guthrie 12-11-2005 08:00 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
This question is asked a lot in the single table tournament forum. The answer is yes, a lot of people play SNGs for a living. Keep in mind that a living for some people won't pay the rent for others.

An ROI of 15% at the 22s would pay you an average of $3.30 per SNG. Four tabling on party, fairly easy work, you should average six SNGs per hour, so your hourly pay would be about $20. Your ROI will decrease as the stakes increase, and/or as your tables increase, but you should be able to find a point that meets your needs.

I started playing 22s after a brutal downswing at limit. I haven't played enough to have confidence I'm going to be a long-term winner, but I seem to have some talent for the game and I've already recouped my limit losses and still going strong.

They're also fun. You don't have to sit back and let the donks suck out on you--you can punish them severely.

mlagoo 12-12-2005 12:56 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
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Four tabling on party, fairly easy work, you should average six SNGs per hour, so your hourly pay would be about $20.

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there is absolutely no reason to four table on party. sngs do not require a lot of deep thought (especially not at the 22s).

a ton of people make a ton of money playing SNGs for a living (usually at significantly higher stakes than 22s). apparently, although i dont think anyone has ever conclusively determined this (would seem like the sample sizes necessary would be outrageous), it is one of, if not the lowest variance form of poker available. which is good for a lot of peoples psyches.

pokergrader 12-12-2005 01:12 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
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Four tabling on party, fairly easy work, you should average six SNGs per hour, so your hourly pay would be about $20.

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there is absolutely no reason to four table on party. sngs do not require a lot of deep thought (especially not at the 22s).

a ton of people make a ton of money playing SNGs for a living (usually at significantly higher stakes than 22s). apparently, although i dont think anyone has ever conclusively determined this (would seem like the sample sizes necessary would be outrageous), it is one of, if not the lowest variance form of poker available. which is good for a lot of peoples psyches.

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There was a great post about variance of SnGs compared to limit for different kinds of players, and it showed that really good limit players have less variance than average to bad SnGers. So while there is less variance for good STT tournament players, for some players there will be less variance at other games.

Guthrie 12-12-2005 01:39 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
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Four tabling on party, fairly easy work, you should average six SNGs per hour, so your hourly pay would be about $20.

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there is absolutely no reason to four table on party. sngs do not require a lot of deep thought (especially not at the 22s).

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Well, if you have one monitor capable of displaying four tables without overlap, you don't want to work too hard, and you can live on $20 an hour, maybe that's a reason. I was giving an example. Presumably OP can multiply.

MicroBob 12-12-2005 01:58 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
never presume.

emonrad87 12-12-2005 09:44 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
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never presume.

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WTF!?!?! That HAS to be your shortest post EVER, BY FAR!

MicroBob 12-12-2005 10:34 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
really?

david050173 12-12-2005 11:15 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
yes.

Sponger15SB 12-12-2005 11:18 PM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
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Best SnG person I know is ZeeJustin by far.

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You don't know Nick B. then

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aLOWdAkING 12-13-2005 12:39 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
Who's that?

RED_RAIN 12-13-2005 01:05 AM

Re: SnGs for a living
 
I know Nick B. I just know ZeeJustin's game more.

I'd be a wager on ZeeJustin over Nick B though in a HUs SnG. Wanna take a bet?


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