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Are casinos allowed to deny a customer the right to play with no reason whatsoever?

If they denied you the right to play because you were black, they would be shut down for discriminating. So would they be allowed to deny you the right to play, with NO reason whatsoever, and get away with it?

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Friend wants to know:
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Are casinos allowed to deny a customer the right to play with no reason whatsoever?

If they denied you the right to play because you were black, they would be shut down for discriminating. So would they be allowed to deny you the right to play, with NO reason whatsoever, and get away with it?

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yes they can. although kicking you out and not letting you play is quite different.

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Depends on a place. Almost all indian casinos (including big ones like Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun etc) can kick you out without explanation and sue you for tresspassing if they see you there again.Atlantic City casinos can't kick you out really. Don't know about Vegas.

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I think in Vegas they can bar your from entering or tell you to leave the casino for whatever reason. This is how they keep known card counters out before they even play a single hand of blackjack. Las Vegas has rules which are very friendly to the casino in this regard

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i think rules like this exist for most businesses. for example, a grocery store can refuse to sell food to anyone without giving them a reason. there are exceptions however. you can't discriminate against someone. so if the person can prove you didn't let them by a twinkie because you hate people with mullets, you may have a lawsuit on your hands.

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I think the rights of mullets are only protected in the deep south. You can safely get away with violating the civil rights of a mullet north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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I think the rights of mullets are only protected in the deep south. You can safely get away with violating the civil rights of a mullet north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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Never been to central Pennsylvania I assume? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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thats [censored] hilarious smb

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I think the rights of mullets are only protected in the deep south. ...

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Never been to central Pennsylvania I assume? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Way too true unfortunatly.

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I think the rights of mullets are only protected in the deep south. You can safely get away with violating the civil rights of a mullet north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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This is completely worthless without pics.

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They call it "tresspassing you". The reason is that a casino is private property, thus, you are tresspassing on their property and they want you off of it. So yes, they can boot you for no reason, but hardly anyone would do it for no reason at all.

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They call it "tresspassing you". The reason is that a casino is private property, thus, you are tresspassing on their property and they want you off of it. So yes, they can boot you for no reason, but hardly anyone would do it for no reason at all.

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This is correct in Vegas. In New Jersey a similar law was challenged in court and the casinos in Atlantic City can no longer tresspass patrons.

In New York, we have the tresspass law as well, so once they legalize poker here (HA!) they can throw you out of the cardrooms.

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In Nevada, a casino can deny service to anyone without providing a reason as long as they are not discriminating against a member of a "protected group," i.e. as long as they're not doing this on the basis of age, sex, color, religion, national origin, etc. Nevada courts have ruled that card counters are not members of a protected group.

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Obviously yes, but a lot of shyt casinos do won't stand up to a legal challenge, (if you are up for doing so). Mostly, it's not worth it. Most joints are no more than legal ripoffs anyway.

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Friend wants to know:
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Are casinos allowed to deny a customer the right to play with no reason whatsoever?

If they denied you the right to play because you were black, they would be shut down for discriminating. So would they be allowed to deny you the right to play, with NO reason whatsoever, and get away with it?

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They used to kick out Blackjack card counters all the time back in the 4 deck days, it was perfectly legal.

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They used to kick out Blackjack card counters all the time back in the 4 deck days, it was perfectly legal.

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Still is. These days, if you're good enough to count the 8 deck shoes, they make you an offer you can't refuse*.












<font color="white">*and by offer you can't refuse i mean "shallow grave" </font>

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I sometimes wish I could kick people in the nuts for no reason.

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Yes I have, you're absolutely right. And, well, West Virginia for that matter, although W.V. is south of the Mason-Dixon Line.

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you're right, kathleen, unfortunately I have never figured out how to post pics on this site. I humbly apologize.

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I think the rights of mullets are only protected in the deep south. You can safely get away with violating the civil rights of a mullet north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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This is completely worthless without pics.

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http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~je269456/hmmullet2.jpg

http://www.randallparkplace.com/imagesRPP/mullet.jpg


Mullets

Now aren't you sorry you asked?

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Yes there private property they have the right to refuse anyone for any "legit" reason.

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Without a reason? Probably they have a reason (might be a bad one but still) otherwise why would they do it? If there was no reason everybody would be shut out.

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I am no longer welcome to play blackjack in a certain riverboat casino on the Iowa/Illinois border. I can feel free to partake of any of the other fabulous gaming opportunities offered by said casino, but I will be trespassing if I ever play blackjack again. (Yes, this is a sort of a brag post, but I'm not nearly so cool as it would suggest. My backing off was entirely unwarranted. I was wonging nonsmoking tables during off-peak time for quarters while waiting for a poker table. I made some count-correct insurance decisions that the dealer and then the pit didn't care for. Then I foolishly played dumb until the pit was pretty much forced to back me off.)

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They used to kick out Blackjack card counters all the time back in the 4 deck days, it was perfectly legal.

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Still is. These days, if you're good enough to count the 8 deck shoes, they make you an offer you can't refuse*.

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It's a myth that an 8-deck shoe is tougher to count than a 4-decker...unless dividing by the numbers 5-8 is more difficult for you than dividing by 1,2,3,4. and if it is, u should not be a card counter.

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They used to kick out Blackjack card counters all the time back in the 4 deck days, it was perfectly legal.

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Still is. These days, if you're good enough to count the 8 deck shoes, they make you an offer you can't refuse*.

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It's a myth that an 8-deck shoe is tougher to count than a 4-decker...unless dividing by the numbers 5-8 is more difficult for you than dividing by 1,2,3,4. and if it is, u should not be a card counter.

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It WILL provide you with fewer positive expectation situations. You need a wider bet spread to play through the negative expectation situations while waiting for a good count. It is also harder to backcount profitably.

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Depends on a place. Almost all indian casinos (including big ones like Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun etc) can kick you out without explanation and sue you for tresspassing if they see you there again.Atlantic City casinos can't kick you out really. Don't know about Vegas.

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I believe the case in AC is that the NJ Gaming Commission is the only entity allowed to formally bar players from casinos and that a barring excludes a player from any casino in the state.

Individual casinos can (and have) take other countermeasures, such as preferrential shuffling or enforcing a bet-size restriction on a card counter at the blackjack tables.

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I think the rights of mullets are only protected in the deep south. You can safely get away with violating the civil rights of a mullet north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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This is completely worthless without pics.

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I feel obligated to post this link, even though we have now hijacked the thread:

http://www.ratemymullet.com