What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

In general are people making overbets trying to steal, or do they have it? I imagine it depends on the skill of the player... Any thoughts?

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

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I imagine it depends on the skill of the player

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it also depends on the situation. Usually it's just top pair

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

Ive also seen it done with 2nd pair, and sometimes straight or flush draws. Its not usually the stone-cold nuts......at least thats from my observations.

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

you can't generalize the meaning of the overbet...so many noobs overbet with TPTK or an overpair to protect their hand, good players overbet with nothing, it's very difficult to just say Overbet = X.

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

player dependent!!
isnt everyhting in poker?

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player dependent!!
isnt everyhting in poker?

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Shut the forums down, it's all been posted [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

IMO the tighter the player the more it means. Of course I play lower limits 25-less. Really weak tight kinds usually overbet when the have a big hand and wild players will do it with any holding

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An overbet always means K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

i've found that a bet of a little more than the pot on a monosuit board is almost always a made hand, generally top pair or better.

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

it usually means the player bets more than there is in the pot

Re: What do overbets usually mean in online tourneys?
 

Way to many variables to just say it's "this" or "that".

Hers some thoughts tho:

Mike Caros book on tells suggests "strong means weak" & "weak means strong". This is often true.

However, if the opponent is well educated in more than just the numbers of poker, they may use this to thier advantage in certain situations and try to use the reverse tell. I know I have on more than one occasion. In both cash games and tournaments. Who the hell open raises all-in preflop in a cash game 100x the BB with Aces? I have, when the game was so frisky and I expected 1 or 2 particular players to call.

Or take the monotone flop, say K high, with a preflop raiser. The BB shoves for 5x the pot! I've done that too! Flopping a set and fully expecting the preflop raiser to make a bad call with AK or AQ with the ace of the suit. But I'm putting him to the test. he's 2:1 to get there, I could still fill-up, I am the long term money favorite and would also be satisfied if he folds...often I prefer this!!

Also, when the flop has 1-3 different draws out there, and the aggressor has say TPTK he doesnt want to give the correct odds to let the draws in. This is an area I try to take advantage of when players underbet the pot, giving me almost infinite implied odds to draw. Yet I'll fold in a heartbeat when they overbet and do not offer me the odds.

Using these 2-3 examples you can see this is player dependent, situation dependent, flop dependent, etc...."it depends".