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hyde 12-10-2005 12:03 PM

ridiculing the fish
 
Why on God's green earth do people ridicule the fish?
Driving them away from the tables.
It completely baffles me.

12-10-2005 12:13 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Good post, Hyde. I play low limits and cheap SNGs and see this too often. Usually I let the first comment or two slide. But more than that, and I post something like "If you're so great, why aren't you playing 20-40 and trying to win some real money?" And if I get a reply to that, I post "If you were really a poker genius, you wouldn't be pissing on the people who are building the pots you're trying to win." The second comment usually gets the a-hole to leave the table.

skipperbob 12-10-2005 12:24 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
I didn't vote because there is NO valid reason to critcize a bad player...I've been watching it happen (in B&M casinos) for 40 years....Bad News: the people who do it will never change [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

bluefeet 12-10-2005 03:08 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Seat 9: (1185 in chips)
Seat 2: (2740 in chips)
bluefeet (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: (2440 in chips)
Seat 5: (1415 in chips)
Seat 6: (3245 in chips)
dude (1045 in chips)

Seat 6: posts small blind 75
dude: posts big blind 150

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [Td Ts]
2 fold
bluefeet: raises 1280 to 1430 and is all-in
4 folds
dude: calls 895 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3c Qh]
*** TURN *** [Jd 3c Qh] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 3c Qh 6h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dude: shows [9c Js] (a pair of Jacks)
bluefeet: shows [Td Ts] (a pair of Tens)
dude collected 2165 from pot
<font color="blue">bluefeet said, "nh"</font>
*** SUMMARY ***
.
.
.
Dealt to bluefeet [3c 5c]
bluefeet: folds
<font color="red">dude said, "ty"</font>
2 folds
<font color="red">dude said, "u2 tho got lucky sry"</font>
1 fold
<font color="green">bluefeet thinks 'must...refrain...'</font>
<font color="blue">bluefeet said, "eh, u never know. good call"</font>
2 folds
<font color="red">dude said, "ty"</font>

12-10-2005 03:18 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Many (good) players have irrational beliefs.
For example: "I'm the best player at this table, so I must win, and if I don't it's terribly unfair." and "If my hand is a favorite it should win, and it's terrible if it doesn't." And apparently many people believe that "players who play very badly and are morons and should not play so bad."

If you believe this, consciously or subconciously, you will be pissed every time one of the above happens.

12-10-2005 03:21 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
I have a small penis. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Thanks for reminding me.

12-10-2005 03:31 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
My standard line: "Is this clinic free?" That usually calms down the rabble.

hyde 12-10-2005 04:07 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]
My standard line: "Is this clinic free?" That usually calms down the rabble.

[/ QUOTE ]

I admit I sometimes ask " did somebody forget their meds today?"

hobbes9324 12-10-2005 04:12 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
I collect stamps.
I just spent $4000 on a piece of paper 1"X 2" printed about
130 years ago in a country you never heard of.
It's none of your goddam business how I spend my money.
It's none of my goddam business how you spend yours.

Which is why I keep the chat shut off........

Pudge714 12-10-2005 05:58 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]
I didn't vote because there is NO valid reason to critcize a bad player...I've been watching it happen (in B&amp;M casinos) for 40 years....Bad News: the people who do it will never change [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Some people do change. When I started playing poker I figured that if anybody ever made a play and it ended up costing me it was my duty to remind him that. Since than I have learned to stop and rarely if ever use chat. The only time I ever get in arguements with people is as a joke where I make ridiculous statments, or occasionsly if I am on mega-tilt.

12-10-2005 06:02 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
I have never understood why someone would want a fish to start playing better. Now that whole telling them about 2+2 thing aside (because I think its a stupid argument), why would you berate someone to play better?

ilikeaces 12-10-2005 06:09 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]
I have never understood why someone would want a fish to start playing better. Now that whole telling them about 2+2 thing aside (because I think its a stupid argument), why would you berate someone to play better?

[/ QUOTE ]

Because sometimes they make mistakes on the bubble that cause you to lose Equity.

12-10-2005 06:14 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]
I have never understood why someone would want a fish to start playing better. Now that whole telling them about 2+2 thing aside (because I think its a stupid argument), why would you berate someone to play better?

[/ QUOTE ]
Ever come across a post here that says something to the effect of: there are too many fish randomizing the $11s and messing my game up, I think I'd do better at the $33s where there are fewer donks?

People remember the times that a play they deem stupid costs them equity, but forget the stupid plays that help them out.

12-10-2005 06:15 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]
Because sometimes they make mistakes on the bubble that cause you to lose Equity.

[/ QUOTE ]
You think this happens more often than mistakes that cause you to gain equity?

splashpot 12-10-2005 06:15 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Come'on. Everyone knows the real reason people make fun of the bad players is because all the cool kids are doing it. Cool kids = always right.

12-10-2005 06:21 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
In a recent SNG, someone made a min-raise from EP, another player pushed and EP folded. I commented: "min-raises aren't getting much respect". A few hands later there were two limpers then someone pushed and both limpers folded. I commented: "limpers aren't getting any respect either". Does this qualify as ridicule?

pergesu 12-10-2005 06:30 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Dude I could show you guys a bazillion hands where the player played stupid and I was super happy about it. Ask Bones...I've IMed him like 20 today already. Fortunately I'm running goot and have won 18 of em.

But yeah, don't criticize fish. It's bad business, and most of all it makes you an [censored].

pergesu 12-10-2005 06:33 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
That's a$$hole without the $$. Get it? Cause you're an a$$hole but you're losing $$ when you teach them...

oh man. Why am I not a standup comic at geek clubs?

12-10-2005 07:53 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]

oh man. Why am I not a standup comic at geek clubs?

[/ QUOTE ]
This isn't a geek club? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

caretaker1 12-10-2005 09:22 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Where's the all of the above option?

valenzuela 12-10-2005 10:28 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
I do it when they ridicule a player thats even worse. Why I do it? I dont know I just do it.
Sometimes I do it when its a truly horrible play and everybody is ridiculing the play, I think I do it because they might fold later on [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

hyde 12-10-2005 11:55 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
[ QUOTE ]
In a recent SNG, someone made a min-raise from EP, another player pushed and EP folded. I commented: "min-raises aren't getting much respect". A few hands later there were two limpers then someone pushed and both limpers folded. I commented: "limpers aren't getting any respect either". Does this qualify as ridicule?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I read your comments as humorous observations. Not sure I would have given you a lol, but it was at least worth a quiet smile. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

ilya 12-10-2005 11:56 PM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
It is cheaper than breaking mice.

12-11-2005 12:00 AM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
Well I just joined up here and if the humor is this good on a daily basis I might not find any time to play poker.

aujoz 12-11-2005 03:22 AM

Re: ridiculing the fish
 
i'm a big fan of talking, especially when playing live, and being light-hearted.

keeps people relaxed, having fun.... you only need half a dozen funny lines to use over and over.


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