$5/10 Check-Up and Interesting Hands
 

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UTG ($347.75)
MP ($796.75)
CO ($337)
Hero ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, SB (poster) calls $25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($70) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, SB calls $70.

Turn: ($210) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, SB calls $150.

River: ($510) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $250</font>, SB calls $740 (All-In)

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Button ($255)
SB ($422)
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Hero ($993.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, MP calls $30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $30, SB (poster) calls $25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($130) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $450</font>

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MP ($2152.77)
CO ($917)
Hero ($1620)
SB ($1165)
BB ($3678.07)
UTG ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $10, CO calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $30, CO calls $30.

Flop: ($135) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, MP calls $50, CO calls $50.

Turn: ($285) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $275</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $560

Just an interesting hand. Gave me an idea for the future
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Kane,

I've read a lot about you and checked out your site and obviously you are a talented NL player and I was wondering what helped you the most in terms of getting better since day 1? I think I read somewhere that you said Super/System helped you the most in terms of book knowledge and obviously experience helped you more but are there any other methods you use or used to help you improve?

Maybe Zen meditation or building a really, really big bankroll before moving up so you have a greater edge in specific games a la Mahatma? I believe one reason he dominates high-stakes NL games is because he has a bigger roll than most who play that game so he's able to push people around more because of that psychological factor whereas scared money or shot-takers might be playing a little worse.

I know these questions are really general and you probably received tons of [censored] like this before, but I'm trying to improve and any info you can shed will be appreciated.

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those all look like folds to me?

people just are not playing back all that too much without the goods.

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Fold
Fold
Fold

I dont see you beating much or getting correct odds to draw in any of them

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Er you moved down from 50/100 to 5/10?

WTF?

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I would have just checked the river in one. Fold the other two.

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Maybe Zen meditation or building a really, really big bankroll before moving up so you have a greater edge in specific games a la Mahatma?

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It's definitely Zen meditation. No question.

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hand one:
I actually like the river bet better than a check here because often in these blind vs. blind battles online the opponent will talk himself into calling with a worse hand.....you fold to the river raise of course.....the only way I might like a river check better is if your opponent is really the type who likes to bluff-raise (doesn't seem like that sort of situation though) or you had him squarely on a draw.....

hand two:
ayy.....100 BB stacks suck.....once you raise preflop and get three callers, the pot size is real uncomfortable to be leading with a drawing hand with.....don't feel like doing the math, but it seems close for a call off the top of my head....no, well, I guess you're getting about 4 to 1 including implied - which really isn't the right price and plus, if you call, half your stack is now in the middle.....I guess you could've either underbet the pot on the flop, or I suppose you could've just said f it and bet the pot with the intention of commitment - in which case just stick it all in there, you don't have any fold equity so just pray your opponent has KQ and that you have 12 clean (very unlikely)....

hand three:
yeah mostly a fold here.....does depend a little on who the opponent is and what your image is, but in this situation because of the third man in it seems unlikely to be a spot where villain would be making a move.....which makes it all the more great if he is......

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I am playing $5/10 until I can rebuild my bankroll after changing Party accounts. They will only let me deposit $2,000/wk and my IMG-Pay checks take a week to clear.

I agree that having a big bankroll is a huge advantage to Mahatma. Alot of players will play until they are broke. So even if they go up big, they will eventually run it down to zero. Imagine if you are playing a tourament and one player has an unlimited number of chips. If these players dont stop playing over their bankrolls, they will end up losing it all back. The pyschological factor is there too, although it might hurt Mahatma at times because the money means less to him then to other people, making it easier for him to tilt(this may or may not be true).

practice makes perfect. the more hands you play the better you will play. study your hands of course and try to learn from your mistakes and from other players. dont tilt.

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why not just do a wire transfer kane? only takes a week at most for any amount of money.

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probably because that makes too much sense

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kane,

I just switched party accounts, and if you email cashier@pay-pro.com (not sure, but something like that) to reopen your neteller account and raise your limits, they will ask for you to call them, and after like 24 hours, they will close neteller on your old accounts (pp, empire) and open it up on your party account. And instantly can transfer a real bankroll.

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I don't get the small flop bet in hand 3. Why not just check or bet the pot? Pardon me, I don't play this high.

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I agree with hands 2 &amp; 3 being folds but does anyone think the first hand is a call? If I have been playing fast and taking down a lot of small pots with continuation bets and folding to raises on the turn recently then I would consider calling this river push. Especially if I thought SB was looking for a place to play back. I know J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or a set is a possibility but are they likely to check the river looking to raise? If Hero has a mediocre hand like Qx or medium pocket pair, which he will some % of the time, the river is going to be checked behind. Also some of the times SB has a big hand he will CR the turn. I don't think there's too many legitimate hands hero can beat but depending on my image at the table 3 to 1 may be too tempting to pass up.

raisins

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hand 1, i dont really like that river value bet... bad cards come off and now you mightve inspired a bluff and layed yourself a really good price, but youre not calling. i still fold it.

hand 2, i dont like that bet size on the flop... checking or underbetting or overbetting or anything besides pot would prob be better. now, fold i guess... or slam it in there and take the worst of it. capped game anyway, i might go all in, fvck it.

hand 3, fine.

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maybe this is a silly question.. but why did you only bet 50 in hand 3 into 135?

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super tight opponents on #3.

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hand 1, i dont really like that river value bet... bad cards come off and now you mightve inspired a bluff and layed yourself a really good price, but youre not calling. i still fold it.

hand 2, i dont like that bet size on the flop... checking or underbetting or overbetting or anything besides pot would prob be better. now, fold i guess... or slam it in there and take the worst of it. capped game anyway, i might go all in, fvck it.

hand 3, fine.

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This is the perfect reply and everything I couldn't be bothered to type. I'll stop now before G35Pro berates me.

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Hand 1
I think we're behind about 75% of the time here if not more, i think it's a fold getting 2-1 seems like some sort of missed draw that hit 2 pair, i dont think Ax of hearts make a raise here, so i guess it's aces up, set, kings up, and whiffed draw in that order

Hand 2
Looks like KJ of hearts here, OOP i look for a better spot, push 20% fold 80%, play with the numbers here i guess

Hand 3
Looks ultra standard, you think he did this with hearts?

I respect your play kane, i probably don't have a VPIP as high as yours at 5-10 although i do try to stay in the 25/18 range 6 handed, i think thats the problem with hand 2, your opponent likely gives you very little credit for much of anything here

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I have to disagree with most of you on hand 2.

If you were playing aggressive at all it's a pretty easy push imo. With a raise that big you gotta think theres a good chance the guy is on a drawing hand also. If you're wrong and he has top pair its pretty much a flip and it's great for your image in further hands.