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Had a layoff due to many reasons, etc. How bad am I?

Hand 1 preflo/flop too thin? Note: I'm pretty damn sure I didn't post UTG. I'm in the BB.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, MP folds.

River: (6.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

Hand 2: No other way to play? Note: MP called all-in on the turn.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (14.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (18.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 22.66 BB

Hand 3: Puke. WTF?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Hand 4: Too weak? What does he c/r both other players with?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

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Hand 1 is ok. The preflop call is the only part that seems marginal. Postflop is good.

Hand 2 I 3-bet the river. I don't put CO on AA or KK based on preflop, so I'm thinking 77-JJ, or even A9. 5x I'm not even considering. Only 99 beats us out of these, so it's a 3-bet on the river.

Hand 3 I fold preflop. The postflop play is standard.

Hand 4 is read dependent. Most of the time w/o a read I chicken out and fold, and hope to pick something up later on.

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hand 1 :NH
hand 2 i def don't bet that river.
Hand 3 some guy who plays really really high stakes online told me to fold J3s in a similar spor preflop yesterday, methinkgs Q4s falls into the same catagory.
Once you get there, standard.
Hand 4 Don't fold. You are getting 9-1 with up to 5 outs- and he could be semibluffing a turned flush draw/striaight draw or stright bluffing, or think hes good with a T. call down.

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Hand 2- can you say "set of 9s"?
Your opponent will bet almost any pair here, no reason to set yourself up to pay 2 bets when you are behind.

EDIT: he many not have 99- he could also have A5- its fricking party poker people!

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Hand 1- Meh, chances of him having A8 or AK are pretty high given his position, but a call is good.

Hand 2- Boobies. I don't be the river.

3- fine

4- not sure

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ok, i pretty much crush 3/6 6 max so ill go against the grain here...
hand 1...Fold, let these other morons be the fish. Your drawing period...your 9 hit may not be good even, running flush is a low percentage out, the pots small, ditch the hang wait for a good spot to cast again...
also note, if he has AA or KK which he is playing like, his boat smokes your flush, that sucks, thats why we dont get into these hands...

hand 2 - i like this, but i may just check call river...hes showing ultra aggression, any read?

hand 3- fold this preflop, hitting a Q or 4 puts your hand into an even crappier position that it already is. also, your draw may likely be a split...

hand 4- call here and take notes...

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posting blind.

hand 1:

fold preflop because of rake. call in a bigger game.
i like to check raise the flop.


hand 2:

i check-call turn and river.


hand 3:

fine


hand 4:

i fold in protected pot. if you've noticed something odd about villian i play on.

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hand 1: I'd rather sexy the river there, that's a good spot. As played, I think that I'd rather see a three bet. you are getting raised by Top two pair more often then you are getting raised by a FH


rest look pretty solid, though the idiot in me might call down hand 4

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Hand 1:
I would have 3-bet the river just cause AK or Ax is such a likely hand and your flush is hidden. He might even cap it with AK/AQ who knows.

Hand 2:
Looks like he loves his hand. After the flop I check/call turn and river cause it looks like we are beat. 99/KK/AA here more often than any hand we beat.

Hand 3:
Here I fold preflop just cause an UTG raise is pretty strong and I just don't know how to play the hand without a good read on UTG. Maybe this is wrong due to your flush possibilities, but there aren't many players in the hand so you won't make much when you hit. Anyways, as you played it, what else can you do? You flopped an open ended and a backdoor flush. Call the turn and fold the river cause you busted. Standard I think.

Hand 4:
Yeah I think that's too weak. Call his raise on the turn and call a river bet UI. Your hand has showdown value and BB might just be fooling around with some straight draw hoping all you have are missed overcards. Or he could believe the same thing and have a hand that you beat.

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I'm new to this posting stuff so don't get all huffy puffy if I make the wrong decision. It is just what I would do.

Hand 1: I think you made the right decision. Given that the Ace flush came on the river, call it through and see what happens at the showdown. You were also on a straight draw so seeing the turn and the river were good plays.

Hand 2: Tough situation with trip 5's on the board. When the 3rd 5 came giving you the full house, now you have to worry about AA or KK. I think it's one of those times you have to gamble and see what happens. You definitely have a hand for the showdown.

Hand 3: For me, a raise before me when I'm holding Q4s, I would probably fold. The suitedness with a small kicker doesn't give me enough confidence that I'll randomly hit something. I think this is one of those times when you almost hit the straight based on luck of the cards. Probably best to fold.

Hand 4: You have middle pair, with a strong kicker. Good job with the bet. Everyone was showing weakness, so you made the best play. I don't know why you folded here when a 4 came out. If BB made two pair, he probably got lucky here. I would have probably called his raise and waited for the river to fold if need be.

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Hand 1: PF isn't thin at all IMO. Flop is super close. Having MP behind us is worrisome. I'd call though. I'm inclined to 3-bet the river.

Hand 2: That's fine

Hand 3: You have to be careful with this kind of situation on the flop. KQ is in the range of all of your opponents and UTG could also have AQ which is a killer too. Not to mention that you're splitting here a lot. I would probably play the flop as you did. If SB had called the flop and lead the turn, I would muck it if I hadn't hit.

Hand 4: fine

BTW did you forget how to post reads during your layoff?

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Hand 1: Preflop is good IMO. Flop is the closest part of the hand; I like the call though. If I 3-bet the river I would hate to call the cap, AA/KK fairly likely.

Hand 2: Would we be giving up too much if we just check called that river. MP's play is screaming high PP and without a read its hard to tell if he will overplay JJ or TT or if this is definately AA or KK.

Hand 3: Not much you can really change about it.

Hand 4: I cant see much that you are beating here and the fold looks good to me. Sometimes I cant control myself and I call down although I rarely win.

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I don't like hand 3. You didn't have any initiative and it is conceivable that villian won the hand unimproved. The way you played it you could only take it down if you hit, plus you could have split or even still lost if you hit. For that reason I like a flop raise. If UTG whiffed he's going to be in a sore spot there and a 3bet from him could signify real strength enabling you to get away cheaply.

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i don't think you'll ever be able to steal a pot with Q high unimproved on a 9TJ board with 3 opponents.

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Sometimes I like to c/r the flop in hand one, if the pfr is weak and won't automatically showdown ace high on a board like this.
Don't bet the river the way this went down in hand 2. The way that played out what with his call-turn raise you're really screwed.
I usually end up like you did in hand 3 and feel violated afterwards.
Unless the guy is a huge aggro I really feel like you're almost never winning in hand 4 and you may or may not have outs so it's an easy fold. The guy is showing big strength the way he played this hand and you don't even have top pair.

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Hand 1, you take 7-1 on a gutshot + backdoor (I dont consider the 9 an out)... out of position, with players left to act... on a paired board. No one else disagrees with this call?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7, 9. Hero posts a blind of $3.

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(edit) Wait, are you the BB here and the hand is just screwed up? I guess that makes more sense.

(re-edit): I see you pointed this out in the hand already! nevermind.


Hand 1: I think I would give some consideration to a 3-bet here. I think he has often just has 2-pair and thinks we're bluffing or doing a wa/wb line. The rest is good

Hand 2: I would probably have just c/c'd the river though, but the b/c seems reasonable too.

Hand 3: Pf is a bit marginal but the rest is okay, not much you can do here but chase

Hand 4: I think you can peel here and consider calling a river bet especially with position where we can close the action.

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MP's play is screaming high PP and without a read its hard to tell if he will overplay JJ or TT or if this is definately AA or KK.

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One thing for everyone to consider on Hand 2, is that MP is all in on the turn. CO has done a lot of cold calling and is now pumping the pot.

FWIW, I put MP on a big PP, probably bigger than mine. On the turn, CO looked like a 5. But the 5 on the river makes that much less likely. I bet/called because I didn't want to c/r and have to call a 3bet.