PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t1430)
SB (t2060)
Hero (t2540)
UTG (t1530)
MP1 (t2070)
MP2 (t2220)
CO (t1650)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t180</font>, MP2 calls t150, Button folds, SB folds.

Flop: (t420) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2360</font>, MP2 calls t1440 (All-In).

Turn: (t4820) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t4820) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4820

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

Villian had KK, and he limped with it, so I had no idea what he might have had. I thought he might have something like 99 or TT. No reads since it's early game.

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

The fact that it is early game and that you are only holding jacks should have caused you to not reraise all in. You are only going to get called by the Ace high flush, a made flush (maybe), trips or a higher pocket pair. Those are alot of possible hands considering you raised. The only way to not go broke playing JJ in your situation is not to push so hard with them.

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

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The fact that it is early game and that you are only holding jacks should have caused you to not reraise all in. You are only going to get called by the Ace high flush, a made flush (maybe), trips or a higher pocket pair. Those are alot of possible hands considering you raised. The only way to not go broke playing JJ in your situation is not to push so hard with them.

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It's a 11$. Villain could make this raise with overcards, draws, top pair, bottom pair, small overpairs etc.
Sometimes he has hero beat. I go broke here.

EDIT: Didn't even look at the stacks. I don't think it would be horrible to call his flop raise and proceed with caution.

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

limp preflop, you could probably get away from it then.

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limp preflop, you could probably get away from it then.

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I think the raise is fine (so is checking). He should raise if he can handle jacks OOP.

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I think the raise is fine

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raising 6x the bb and using 10% of your stack to do it with, is not what I would call fine. Especially if you're going to do it with a really horrible hand like jacks.

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

Jacks are horrible? Guess I don't get aces as often as you. Raising 7% of your stack is fine too.

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Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

I hate jacks early game, absolutely hate them. I jump up and down when I don't go broke on them (hmmm is it me or the jacks?). I'm going to start limp/folding them early on until we get past our "trust issues".

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I think the raise is fine

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raising 6x the bb and using 10% of your stack to do it with, is not what I would call fine. Especially if you're going to do it with a really horrible hand like jacks.

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If jacks are horrible, what else would your play?

Also, regarding the raise, if I don't raise enough, then every crappy ace, king and queen is going to stay.

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I think the raise is fine

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raising 6x the bb and using 10% of your stack to do it with, is not what I would call fine. Especially if you're going to do it with a really horrible hand like jacks.

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If jacks are horrible, what else would your play?

Also, regarding the raise, if I don't raise enough, then every crappy ace, king and queen is going to stay.

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The problem with raising this much for this specific purpose at an 11 is that most crappy aces or kings that are willing to call 3x will call 6x as well.

Do you also raise 6x with AA-QQ here?

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I think the raise is fine

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raising 6x the bb and using 10% of your stack to do it with, is not what I would call fine. Especially if you're going to do it with a really horrible hand like jacks.

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If jacks are horrible, what else would your play?

Also, regarding the raise, if I don't raise enough, then every crappy ace, king and queen is going to stay.

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The problem with raising this much for this specific purpose at an 11 is that most crappy aces or kings that are willing to call 3x will call 6x as well.

Do you also raise 6x with AA-QQ here?

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Yes

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

This line is only bad if you're unwilling to shove your chips in on that particular flop after the preflop action.

Re: PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?
 

Minraises scare the crap out of me. I still probably go broke here reluctantly though, it's hard to put him on something that beats you after he limp-calls preflop.

As for preflop, I think checking or raising are both reasonable. I like the size of your raise too.