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Larimani 12-08-2005 11:37 AM

I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
No reads on villain.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($102.90)
MP ($59.90)
CO ($49.75)
Button ($84.95)
SB ($80.95)
Hero ($24.08)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $7</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $15

Isura 12-08-2005 11:38 AM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
Pot the flop. THen you can fold to the minraise.

12-08-2005 11:43 AM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
I'm not sure I'd bet this flop 4 handed out of position. I think i'd check it and fold to a bet.

Larimani 12-08-2005 11:44 AM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
anyone raises big preflop?

beavens 12-08-2005 11:49 AM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
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anyone raises big preflop?

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depends on the table.. sometimes yes, most of the time no.

ahnuld 12-08-2005 12:07 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
Oh, wow, fold flop. I dont even like leading, but definitly fold to the riase.

12-08-2005 12:07 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
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anyone raises big preflop?

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You could, generally I wouldn't, it depends on the situation. It's mostly a feel thing.

If you did raise it preflop you could feel more comfortable about tossing out a bet on the flop.

It's common for people to limp-in with small/mid pp's for set value, but then they make a mistake by getting crazy with them when they miss theer set on what they see as a 'favorable' flop. Someone could have limped with anything so you have to be careful, especially OOP. Generally if I limp a mid PP OOP in a multiway and I don't hit my set then I dump it. When you have position, or have raised it preflop you may have some more options. It's all based on feel though.

12-08-2005 12:10 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
I can't see taking a hard line in this hand, if you run into some action you are looking at a significant part of your stack going in. This is a c/f for me. Too Sensitive

If you must bet here, make it at least 3/4- 1xpot. Like I said this pattern is just too transparent, villains firast show of aggression is when trip kings are a possibility

Cambraceres

Isura 12-08-2005 02:35 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
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Oh, wow, fold flop.

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srm80 12-08-2005 02:44 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
yeah i would bet 2 or more on the flop, because when you go from betting to calling it is hard to know where you are at in the hand, especially against a player in LP that limped in. The only good move there, imo, would be to reraise to $10 or more, or fold it. A raise there would be read-dependent, if you know the player to be an aggressive raiser.

ajmargarine 12-08-2005 02:47 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
Pot flop and fold to the raise, as mentioned. As played, fold to the flop raise anyway.

12-08-2005 03:30 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
I like to lead at paired flops, both with and without trips, usually for about the size of the pot. However I am not so keen to bluff when the pair are paint because many players limp any two paint cards.
I fold to the raise here. Villan might have a 5 but more likely has a K. It isn't worth $2 to try for one of the last two 7s on the turn.

12-08-2005 03:59 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
Pot flop, fold to a raise, unless read dictates otherwise.

For the raise preflop, It is definitley a play I will try to pull. There is $2 in the pot, and I might pop this up to $3.

If you were to lose everytime you were called, you would need to win this &gt; 60% of the time for it to be +EV. They should fold it &gt; 60%, but you of couce have +EV postflop if you get called, and can make a standard c-bet to take down the pot. It depends on the table, though, and in a lot of loose $50 games, this is not a good play.

PoBoy321 12-08-2005 04:03 PM

Re: I suck at poker - 77 in the BB
 
In a 4-way limped pot where you checked in the BB, just check/fold the flop. You haven't taken an aggressive stance in the hand, so you're not making a CB, you're only hoping that there isn't a K out there and that everyone will fold, which I think is unlikely.

As played, bet a little more on the flop and fold to the raise.


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