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IndieMatty 12-05-2005 12:25 PM

At The Drive In or MarsVolta/Sparta
 
So, each offshoot band has 2 albums and an EP under their belt. It would be the cool thing to say, ====OMGLOLZ! ATDI was the best!!!, Sparta sucks and Mars Volta is contrived! Jam band [censored]!== But I think that At the Drive In really hit their peak with Relationship on Command, and the debut albums from both offshoot bands really were underrated (especially Sparta's - Wiretap Scars). So I think after a few years, we as music fans are better off for the break up.

You little indie hipster posuers have any original thoughts?

ZeeJustin 12-05-2005 12:29 PM

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I like all 3 a lot.

Out of all their work, I have to say that Wiretap Scars is the best album, and Red Alibi on that album is a [censored] amazing track.

mmbt0ne 12-05-2005 12:29 PM

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Mars Volta singer tried way too hard on Frances the Mute. Kinda disappointing after De-loused.

SL__72 12-05-2005 12:30 PM

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Of any of the albums put out I liked Wiretap Scars the most.

IndieMatty 12-05-2005 12:31 PM

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Mars Volta singer tried way too hard on Frances the Mute. Kinda disappointing after De-loused.

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Yeah, Frances the Mute is a huge letdown. And actually so is the second Sparta album (name escapes me). I still REALLY like the debuts enough to vote for the split.

mmbt0ne 12-05-2005 12:37 PM

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Yeah, I vote split as well.

marsvolta619 12-05-2005 01:55 PM

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I vote split, although the only reason I consider Sparta is cause the of the bassist.

But, I disagree on your ATDI observation. Relationship of Command was awesome but I like Vaya/In Casino Out better

Piiop 12-05-2005 02:04 PM

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I wouldn't call Frances the Mute a huge letdown at all.

I voted split but I like all 3 a lot.

What about live shows? I never saw ATDI and haven't seen Sparta, but I saw Mars Volta in September and it was pretty amazing.

Autocratic 12-05-2005 02:04 PM

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I don't like Sparta that much, I feel like most of the creativity went to the Mars Volta. I loved De-loused, and liked Frances the Mute a little bit less (though I think fans were too hard on it). ATDI was just great, though - I remember how upset I was when they split (though the differences between Sparta and the Volta make it obvious how wide the creative rift was there). I probably consider ATDI and the Mars Volta equal, though it depends on my mood.

Also, Relationship of Command was clearly the best ATDI album, anyone who says otherwise just wants to be indie. Though I did love in/Casino/Out.

IndieMatty 12-05-2005 02:07 PM

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I wouldn't call Frances the Mute a huge letdown at all.

I voted split but I like all 3 a lot.

What about live shows? I never saw ATDI and haven't seen Sparta, but I saw Mars Volta in September and it was pretty amazing.

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Amazing?! I find their live show completely boring. ATDI was awesome live. Sparta is good, I've seen them a few times. They really rocked at Coachella.

Piiop 12-05-2005 02:08 PM

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You think Mars Volta live is boring???

IndieMatty 12-05-2005 02:10 PM

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You think Mars Volta live is boring???

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They were when I saw them. If don't want to hear a 20 minute jam of a 14 minute song that really should have been 6 minutes.

marsvolta619 12-05-2005 02:11 PM

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ATDI was just great, though - I remember how upset I was when they split (though the differences between Sparta and the Volta make it obvious how wide the creative rift was there).

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You were upset? I had tickets to see them but they went on hiatus a week before!

Autocratic 12-05-2005 02:14 PM

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You think Mars Volta live is boring???

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They were when I saw them. If don't want to hear a 20 minute jam of a 14 minute song that really should have been 6 minutes.

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They've VASTLY improved since their first tour, if that's when you saw them. I was bored with the De-Loused tour, they just jammed for too long. But when I saw them in May, it was perhaps the best concert I have ever been to (and I have not been to a small amount).

And mars, that's terrible, I remember the controversy on their message boards over whether or not they were breaking up. It was a sad time.

IndieMatty 12-05-2005 02:15 PM

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You think Mars Volta live is boring???

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They were when I saw them. If don't want to hear a 20 minute jam of a 14 minute song that really should have been 6 minutes.

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They've VASTLY improved since their first tour, if that's when you saw them. I was bored with the De-Loused tour, they just jammed for too long. But when I saw them in May, it was perhaps the best concert I have ever been to (and I have not been to a small amount).

And mars, that's terrible, I remember the controversy on their message boards over whether or not they were breaking up. It was a sad time.

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Correct, I only saw them on the deloused tour.

MarkL444 12-05-2005 02:44 PM

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ATDI > MV
ATDI > S

but!

having tghe two is better than having the one, barely


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