why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

I don't understand this. Why do I win more at the higher levels? I think it is because there aren't as many stupid fish!!!! I mean at 5/10 and 3/6 people always suck out on me. I'll cap it preflop, and then check-raise someone on the flop with AA and they will hit a runner-runner straight to beat me! I think I should just play at the higher levels because this doesn't happen and you can actually bluff people and they will fold when they have runner-runner draws instead of always sucking out!
What do you think? Should I move up permanently?
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Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

Your sample size at the lower limits is too large. Play fewer hands at those limits and post your numbers then.

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

Wow. Maybe I should have just skipped the 10/20 like you and I would be rich now. I think I will put myself on the waiting list for the 100/200 game right now.

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Your sample size at the lower limits is too large. Play fewer hands at those limits and post your numbers then.

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Ignore these sarcastic replies. The truth is that it's much easier to win money against better players. That's why the better players are all losers.

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Ignore these sarcastic replies. The truth is that it's much easier to win money against better players. That's why the better players are all losers.

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well i don't think i could beat like phil ivey or gus hansen but it would probably be easier to beat them than beat all 9 people that see the flop at 2/4. that's why 15/30 is better because only 3 or 4 people see the flop and then you can bluff them

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I mean, are you serious? People respect your raises more.

I took like infinity bad beats at $25 PLO8 so i moved up to UB 50/100 nl. After my wife left me I won a bagillion dollars. The key to my victory was a 3rd table and my well respected raises.

Can someone transfer me $1 on stars?

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Your sample size at the lower limits is too large. Play fewer hands at those limits and post your numbers then.

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This is correct.

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

When you are playing 5/10, people will chase with stupid stuff like flush draws and straight draws, because hey, it's only 10 bucks. Once you get up to 30/60 though people think "Man, I'd really like that flush draw but I'd really like for my wife to get her hair done" and they lay it down.

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

Get that PFR% up.

Edit: Seriously.

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

I think that you need to play way more hands before you can feel confident that you will win more playing at 15/30 or 30/60. That being said, i too win more playing 10/20 or 15/30 as compared to smaller limits and i'm not positive why either. I thought the same as u for awhile, because there aren't as many stupid fish; however, Sklansky will quickly point out that these stupid calls should make you money in the long run, but for me it doesn't seem like they do!

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your VP$IP at 15/30-30/60 isn't high enough

like people have said, your opponents respect raises more so you should play every hand for a raise

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your VP$IP at 15/30-30/60 isn't high enough

like people have said, your opponents respect raises more so you should play every OTHER hand for a raise

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FYP. You really want to remain a bit deceptive. Otherwise, your post is good.

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

Are you joking?

You have a combined 115 hands at those levels.
Play 20,000 at every level then look at your winrate.

...and why the hell do you want everyone to fold to your AA?

I want people calling me with gutshot straight draws and underpairs. Every once in a while they win. Every other time, I load up.

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

Your sample hand alone should give you some clue. You have created a monster pot, thereby making it virtually impossible for these poor players to make mistakes on the turn and only make small mistakes on river. Call, call, call!

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well i don't think i could beat like phil ivey or gus hansen but it would probably be easier to beat them than beat all 9 people that see the flop at 2/4. that's why 15/30 is better because only 3 or 4 people see the flop and then you can bluff them

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I used to feel this way also, that playing higher limits i was able to put moves on other players more and thus win more. I do question just how much the skill level improves as the stakes go up--i think many times its just a case of the same skill levels but their day jobs pay better!!
Still, it seemed to me that i was just playing the smaller stakes a bit incorrectly. If you play very tight pre-flop when everyone is seeing the flop, you are probably not playing your suited connectors, Ax suited, etc. With the fishy games, you want to hit monster hands and then get paid off when people chase when drawing dead. The AK AQ, QQ type hands do better with fewer callers. Sometimes, Sklansky points out that the players actually get correct odds to call your high cards when everyone calls a raise preflop. Now the pot odds make calling correct.
So if you get a lot more players in, then you want to play more straight, flush, and other hands geared toward becoming monsters.
I suck at poker but am finding the lower limits to be more and more beatable with this strategy tweak. As you move up, potentially playing tighter, aggro, bluffing comes into play.

-g

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

I am surprised, that you have jumped yet another level, maybe you are a natural ?? :-)

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

you are playing too tight and too passive at the lower limits, which is evidenced by your winrates.

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"well i don't think i could beat like phil ivey or gus hansen but it would probably be easier to beat them than beat all 9 people that see the flop at 2/4. that's why 15/30 is better because only 3 or 4 people see the flop and then you can bluff them "

its not so much that they are harder to beat, but u are not playing properly. TO say that pple chasing without the correct odds is detrimental to your play is just dumb. Maybe you should reconsider the value of your hands in loose multiway pots b4 making obviously unknowledgable claims

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

you can prob keep up that 22.44bb/100 at 15/30. just think a year of playing 1 table 40 hours a week could mean over a million $ 4 u

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Make sure none of the fish find out about this, because they might move up and dominate the higher stakes games by sucking out all the time like they do at small stakes.

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you can prob keep up that 22.44bb/100 at 15/30. just think a year of playing 1 table 40 hours a week could mean over a million $ 4 u

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i know. i'm so excited! i already dropped all my classes next semester and quit my part-time job. i'm just going to play poker all year. my parents think i'm crazy but they'll see when i make more than them both combined!

Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?
 

because the BB;s are more money