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PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 05:21 PM

Improving OOT (long)
 
It is apparent to me (and hopefully others) that this forum needs to be adjusted again.

I really didn't want to do this, but someone has to. Every time I read OOT I am reminded of feelings of how much better this forum would/should be if a few practices were to be disallowed and/or stopped.

Maybe I am the only one here who thinks this way. If this is the case and someone respectable (not necessarily a mod) tells me to shut the [censored] up I will. I promise.

Some things I think needs to change/stop occuring:

(In no particular order)

1) Stupid acronyms like YSSCKY. It is the most juvenile, unclever, non-insulting thing I have ever seen as a response. And it is always unprovoked. It only shows how unoriginal and immature you are.

Here is an example:
[ QUOTE ]

OP: "I like to have sex with fat women. Does this make me less of a man?"

DoucheBag: "YSSCKY"


[/ QUOTE ]

If you are guilty of this, please refrain from further use of this non-contributing practice.

2) Thread clutter. Threads become three pages long completely unnessarily. A few reasons:

A) Quoting a prior post without commenting or adding something. Someone has already said what you were thinking. What is so special about it that it needs repeating? Obviously there are times where this is appropriate, like in instances of offering congratulations, or sentiments of humor, appreciation, or condolences... etc. But for the most part this is a much overused and irritating practice. [censored] your post count.

B) Engaging in conversations and discussions that are off-topic. It is fine to do this, but start a new thread. When I open a thread that already has 50 posts and I have to wade through stretches 15 posts long that only two or three people care about it is cumbersome and takes away from the value of the thread.

C) Reviving ancient threads with a useless comment. After a thread has been read 5k times and has 250 comments I can't believe someone could have something useful to add to it that hasn't already been said.

D) Unfunny smart-ass responses. If it isn't funny and doesn't have any discussion value? Why say it?

E) FYP's. They were funny a long time ago. But now they are irritating and usually unamusing and useless. Furthermore they are often unprovoked attempts at insulting the poster of the original comment.

F) Poker euphemisms like NH, fold preflop, etc. No poker in OOT.

G) When someone posts a picture to convey a sentiment, usually sarcasm. I have seen the hot tub picture and the steaming dungpile way more that I would ever have cared to. It is doubly cumbersome due to being repeatedly quoted into subsequent posts.

3) Starting threads about [censored]. Pure useless BS. Why make up a story about something that didn't happen, then ask advice about how to proceed in said instance? I assume most of these are hypothetical situations that will probably never occur.

4) Starting threads about moral decisions. Most moral decisions can be self-answered. If it's too close of a call, fine. But chances are no one here will be able to make a better decision than you can. Furthermore, threads about moral decisions that are nothing more than someone looking for justification from others to do the wrong thing are ridiculous and do nothing but make the OP look like an [censored]. No one is going to tell you it's ok to cheat on your wife, nor are they going to care if you do or not. The exception is if you post a picture of the mistress. And say nothing.

5) Mistitled threads. I am sure most of the time this is nothing more than inadvertant poor wood usage. But, when I open a thread titled "NSFW", and don't see boobies, I feel cheated. I am downright offended when I click this, and see something I don't want to see, like a giraffe humping a beached whale carcass.

6) Posts that don't contribute in any way. This you'd think is self explicit, but I doubt the concept is clear to everyone. If what you are saying isn't going to contribute, why post it? [censored] your post count. No one cares once it gets over 200.



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Now if it looks as if I put a lot of thought into this, I have. The fact is if I didn't like this forum so much, I just wouldn't open it and spend my time elsewhere. What sets OOT apart from other BS forums is the fact that it is populated with respectable, intelligent people. It's the lack of intellect, maturity, and consideration of others that is keeping this forum from being as great is it could be.

Again, if I am alone in this, I am sure you will let me know. I am not suggesting a mass banning or that anyone apologize, I just would like to see people be a little more respectful in their usage of this great entertaining forum.

PG

MelK 12-04-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
You left out this part:

"And so, my fellow OOTers, if you elect me, PokerGoblin, to be your moderator, I will come down on the violators of these guidelines in such a way that you will think [censored] was a pansy. Your friend,

PG

(vote early, vote often)"

WackityWhiz 12-04-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
I think OOT is fun...

you took an awful lot of your time making this thread when almost every one of these things have been brought up before. I mean it's just not going to change things much. It might have and effect in the short term, but long term it will mean nothing.

[censored] is the best thing that this forum has had, he is amazing. He takes care of people who are worthless, that is all we need.

billyjex 12-04-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
Your life must be one big party.

Go all in!

DMBFan23 12-04-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
SIIHP

jba 12-04-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
this will be my first















YSSCKY

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
The mods here do a fine job.

Phoenix1010 12-04-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
Go outside, get some sun, make a friend.

MelK 12-04-2005 05:31 PM

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The mods here do a fine job.

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I agree, but its not like there is a limit to the number of mods we have, right?

tom441lbk 12-04-2005 05:33 PM

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this will be my first















YSSCKY

[/ QUOTE ]

i have nothing to add

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 05:35 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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I think OOT is fun...

you took an awful lot of your time making this thread when almost every one of these things have been brought up before. I mean it's just not going to change things much. It might have and effect in the short term, but long term it will mean nothing.

[censored] is the best thing that this forum has had, he is amazing. He takes care of people who are worthless, that is all we need.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was doing other things as well.

It ran longer than I meant for it to... but, anything worth doing, is worth doing right.

Those are just thing that irritate me. If no one agrees, fine.

Voltron87 12-04-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
sir i suggest you stop being such a faggot

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 05:36 PM

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this will be my first















YSSCKY

[/ QUOTE ]

and only I hope.

TheRover 12-04-2005 05:36 PM

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this will be my first















YSSCKY

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i have nothing to add

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12-04-2005 05:37 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
PG,
Sorry for the billyjex and DMB. I appreciate your post as I can tell it was well thought and definitely in the right.
sco

gorie 12-04-2005 05:38 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
i hate YSSCKY. sometimes reading it gives me a feeling similar to watching home improvement, or spaceballs, and i have to go lay down.

it would be awesome if YSSCKY was censored out. doitdoit.

nomadtla 12-04-2005 05:39 PM

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sir i suggest you stop being such a faggot

[/ QUOTE ]

This made me cry and spit soda out my nose. That's what OOT's all about and I think the mods do a fine job, and your post acctually had some good points and I agree with you. But I mainly wanted to reply to up my post count [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

DMBFan23 12-04-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
ORLY?

LondonBroil 12-04-2005 05:40 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this will be my first















YSSCKY

[/ QUOTE ]

i have nothing to add

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PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
[ QUOTE ]
PG,
Sorry for the billyjex and DMB. I appreciate your post as I can tell it was well thought and definitely in the right.
sco

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks.

Don't apologize for the actions of others, though. I'm a big boy.

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

I give up. What is ORLY?

miajag81 12-04-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
[ QUOTE ]
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ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

I give up. What is ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

an airport in Paris

Sephus 12-04-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
PG,
Sorry for the billyjex and DMB. I appreciate your post as I can tell it was well thought and definitely in the right.
sco

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks.

Don't apologize for the actions of others, though. I'm a big boy.

[/ QUOTE ]

trying2learn 12-04-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
i think that what you basically did was outline - in a very wordy way - the things that annoy you about OOT. there are certain parts of the different things that you list that people here find funny...

different strokes for different folks. while i think a little less of some of those things would be nice...people should spend less time bitching about how great OOT used to be...it's becoming as lame as the 800th greatest rock band of the 90's threads.

all you did was put up a thread that is going to be littered with all the things you hate.

Sephus 12-04-2005 05:45 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

I give up. What is ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

an airport in Paris

[/ QUOTE ]

ORLY?

TheRover 12-04-2005 05:47 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
[ QUOTE ]
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ORLY?

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I give up. What is ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

an airport in Paris

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ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ] http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1072/orly5xo.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4649/orlyfactor1nz.gif
http://ku.romproductions.com/pics2/d...1/orltvty2.jpg

IggyWH 12-04-2005 05:50 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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when I open a thread titled "NSFW", and don't see boobies, I feel cheated.

[/ QUOTE ]

Only vadlid point you made. I believe that even if you want to show a dog blowing an lion and put NSFW, you should also have to include a picture of some titties.

man 12-04-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]

I give up. What is ORLY?

[/ QUOTE ]
wikipedia knows all.

Vavavoom 12-04-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
Bump... <font color="white"> Just upping my post count </font>

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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i think that what you basically did was outline - in a very wordy way - the things that annoy you about OOT.

[/ QUOTE ]

True, but if I titled it 'What annoys me about OOT' I'd be no more than bitching about things and I would come across as having little to say.

I knew this would happen anyhow, but at least the way it is now comes across as having a genuine interest in improving the forum.

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all you did was put up a thread that is going to be littered with all the things you hate.

[/ QUOTE ]

I knew this would happen before I posted it. The thing is, if at least some people read it with an open mind it'll be worth the flaming I get.

WackityWhiz 12-04-2005 06:10 PM

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Bump... <font color="white"> Just upping my post count </font>

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trying2learn 12-04-2005 06:10 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i think that what you basically did was outline - in a very wordy way - the things that annoy you about OOT.

[/ QUOTE ]

True, but if I titled it 'What annoys me about OOT' I'd be no more than bitching about things and I would come across as having little to say.

I knew this would happen anyhow, but at least the way it is now comes across as having a genuine interest in improving the forum.

[ QUOTE ]
all you did was put up a thread that is going to be littered with all the things you hate.

[/ QUOTE ]

I knew this would happen before I posted it. The thing is, if at least some people read it with an open mind it'll be worth the flaming I get.

[/ QUOTE ]

sorry to quote everything - know that's one of the no no's - but don't you think another (and much more controllable by you) option would be to quit being so upset by things?

that's the point everyone who flames you is trying to make.

i think that mat, [censored] (although i think he got carried away once or twice), and astro all do a good job to keep the noise and junk down. too much more you may as well go set up your own forum with your own rules...

just my opinion of course...

12-04-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
Maybe you should stop wearing commie t-shirts, and stop making everyone want to think like you.


JK
LOL
SIIHP?

Eurotrash 12-04-2005 06:15 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
G) When someone posts a picture to convey a sentiment, usually sarcasm.

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http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9946/hudson6pa.png


No images, man!? well that's great, that's just [censored]' GREAT, man! now what the [censored] are we supposed to do?

We're in some real pretty [censored] now, man!

That's it, man! game over, man! GAME OVER.

CrazyEyez 12-04-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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5) Mistitled threads

[/ QUOTE ]
Like this one?


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6) Posts that don't contribute in any way

[/ QUOTE ]

Like this one? You said exactly zero things that haven't been said many, many, many times.

TheIrishThug 12-04-2005 06:21 PM

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... sometimes reading it gives me a feeling similar to watching home improvement, or spaceballs, and i have to go lay down.

[/ QUOTE ]

spaceballs is a classic.

BreakEvenPlayer 12-04-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
You're right but none of the stuff you list is anything to lose sleep over. There is a lot of intelligent discussion in this forum, but many of the posters here are socially retarded. When someone replies with "YSSCKY" it's definitely true that they are unoriginal and unfunny, but mostly they are just trying to fit in socially in this community.

gorie 12-04-2005 06:22 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
... sometimes reading it gives me a feeling similar to watching home improvement, or spaceballs, and i have to go lay down.

[/ QUOTE ]

spaceballs is a classic.

[/ QUOTE ]
maybe, but it makes me feel kinda headachy and sick feeling. i think because i've seen it too many times.

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 06:28 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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sorry to quote everything - know that's one of the no no's - but don't you think another (and much more controllable by you) option would be to quit being so upset by things?

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't be sorry to quote everything. It serves a purpose.

Probably. I have a personality flaw that causes me to always want to improve things that I enjoy. I know I am being anal in writing the original post, and if thats all people see it for I am prepared to accept that.

I realize that OOT is an anything goes type of arena. Sifting through many non-contributing posts in a thread is cumbersome, especially in popular threads with pages of dialogue. I don't read this all day, so a lot of posts have 100 replies before I see it once. I don't reply to them often because I don't see the point in saying something that's already been said and I don't see the point in bumping a thread no one cares about anymore.

PokerGoblin 12-04-2005 06:34 PM

Re: Improving OOT (long)
 
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There is a lot of intelligent discussion in this forum, but many of the posters here are socially retarded.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wasn't going to do any name calling, but I don't disagree.


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