3/6: K8o Blind battle; I give up on the turn
 

BB 60/9 over 33 hands So not much

PokerRoom 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed, 5 max)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">3 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

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Looks good.

In general, how often are you firing again on the turn when you don't have a pair?

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I don't know. It's so situation and player dependent. I'll do it a lot against TAGs when I know they are calling the flop hoping to hit but obviously won't have odds to continue. This one’s hard because I think he's calling me with crap a lot on the flop, but I don't want to invest two more BB to see a showdown with K8 high.

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I like it

if the turn is a 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you're betting?

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I like it

if the turn is a 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you're betting?

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Probably not. The main problem I have here is that betting at the pot isn't going to folding anything that beats me, but he's not calling enough with things I beat to make a bet and then a river check/call worth it.

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I like it

if the turn is a 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you're betting?

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Probably not. The main problem I have here is that betting at the pot isn't going to folding anything that beats me, but he's not calling enough with things I beat to make a bet and then a river check/call worth it.

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ok I can buy that I guess but a guy this loose has a bunch of 6 outers that we're giving a free card to. how do you feel about that?

i hate these situations

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I like it

if the turn is a 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you're betting?

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Probably not. The main problem I have here is that betting at the pot isn't going to folding anything that beats me, but he's not calling enough with things I beat to make a bet and then a river check/call worth it.

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ok I can buy that I guess but a guy this loose has a bunch of 6 outers that we're giving a free card to. how do you feel about that?

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It's worst really. I feel like he's probably betting a lot of them. I haven't seen this guy enough to know what he's like post flop, but PokerRoom has struck me as a really LAGy place with a lot of semi-smart donks. I wouldn't expect him to check though very often.

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I check/Call flop and then Cr/Bet the turn because i'm a donk and everyone loves to fold when a flush falls [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (Except the guys with his WTSD numbers [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img])

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Is there any other lines pf or flop that doesn't leave us in this situation because losing this pot this way seems pretty inevitable.

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Is there any other lines pf or flop that doesn't leave us in this situation because losing this pot this way seems pretty inevitable.

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Open complete. check/fold when we don't hit?

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Is there any other lines pf or flop that doesn't leave us in this situation because losing this pot this way seems pretty inevitable.

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Open complete. check/fold when we don't hit?

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yeah or i do that, I only steal from tightys with a good read though. Haven't worked on this side of 6max yet. To busy establishing my "game".

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If BB is a calling station (with the provided info I'd day it's likely), would callling from the SB make more sense? He going to call until the river and whether we have a hand or not. Just calling preflop allows us to get away from our hand easier if he bets the flop. Our check on the turn broadcasts that we don't have a hand so even passive villians are likely to bet (which is why when we do have a hand we should sometimes ck the turn to induce a bluff).

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I check/Call flop and then Cr/Bet the turn because i'm a donk and everyone loves to fold when a flush falls [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (Except the guys with his WTSD numbers [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img])

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I don't think he's folding enough to that CR or the bet.

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Oops i just read his stats, Complete and fold.

Would you try steal from this guy in 10max? i wouldn't [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Oops i just read his stats, Complete and fold.

Would you try steal from this guy in 10max? i wouldn't [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]I'm not trying to steal though. It's for value. He could easily be defending any two. I don't play any different in full after 4 folds then I do in 6-max. I just try to remember that full players tend to be much weaker and more passive then 6m players. It should be noted however that someone with these stats is probably a much worse full player then a 6m player.

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Marginal value though, PokerStove said 55% to 45% HU vs a random hand(I let it run for a few seconds so could be far out).

I normally complete here and let it go(Or one bluff bet).

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Open complete. check/fold when we don't hit?

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hmm..... instinctively this seems bad but does anyone else think this could be the best play?

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Marginal value though, PokerStove said 55% to 45% HU vs a random hand(I let it run for a few seconds so could be far out).

I normally complete here and let it go(Or one bluff bet).

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I'm not really open completing much at all. Probably something I should consider against this player.

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Open complete. check/fold when we don't hit?

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hmm..... instinctively this seems bad

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Yeah it feels a little icky to me too.