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bravos1 12-04-2005 04:08 AM

Too much??
 
No real reads, but SB seems decent enough.

FullTilt 1/2 (9 handed)

Dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button

Folded to me, I raise, SB calls, BB reraises, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB checks, I bet, SB calls, BB folds

Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet, SB calls

River 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

check, check

Thoughts?

jaxUp 12-04-2005 04:09 AM

Re: Too much??
 
gorgeous...you can also consider checking the turn and calling a river bet.

bottomset 12-04-2005 04:22 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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gorgeous...you can also consider checking the turn and calling a river bet.

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I think I like the checkbehind, call river line more

12-04-2005 04:22 AM

Re: Too much??
 
This is made an interesting hand when BB fails to bet the flop.

I check behind on the turn.

You could get checkraised here with 2pr or AT and end up folding the best hand which would lick balls.

I call a river bet (expecting to snap a bluff) or bet for value if checked to (villian will think I'm FOS after checking the turn).

bravos1 12-04-2005 04:26 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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gorgeous...you can also consider checking the turn and calling a river bet.

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I think I like the checkbehind, call river line more

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I agree, it would suck to get C/R'd here! I was just about to reply to JaxUp the same thing then I saw your post...

Shillx 12-04-2005 04:31 AM

Re: Too much??
 
My Thoughts

Wow bet the river dude.

shant 12-04-2005 04:34 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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bet for value if checked to (villian will think I'm FOS after checking the turn).

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I think this is a key thing people are failing to address when planning on checking the turn.

bravos1 12-04-2005 04:34 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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This is made an interesting hand when BB fails to bet the flop.

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agreed
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I check behind on the turn.

You could get checkraised here with 2pr or AT and end up folding the best hand which would lick balls.

I call a river bet (expecting to snap a bluff) or bet for value if checked to (villian will think I'm FOS after checking the turn).

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Yep.. I agree, think this is the best line after pondering on it a bit. BB did indeed have 2 pair (K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]), but totally went weak-tight with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the board.

bottomset 12-04-2005 04:36 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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bet for value if checked to (villian will think I'm FOS after checking the turn).

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I think this is a key thing people are failing to address when planning on checking the turn.

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I guess I didn't specify, but yeah thats a super easy river bet, if checked too

DavidC 12-04-2005 04:36 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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My Thoughts

Wow bet the river dude.

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Thanks, Brad.

12-04-2005 08:35 AM

Re: Too much??
 
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My Thoughts

Wow bet the river dude.

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Spot on, spot on. He is apperently afraid of something when he checks the turn and river so I would throw out a bet on the river and call a raise, but a raise from him is VERY unlikely here.

Catsailor 12-04-2005 11:32 AM

Re: Too much??
 
Grunch:
I like this all the way. After BB ck/fold on flop I think we are looking better.
When Js fell on turn I fear a better spade might ck/r here but since he doesn't, and he cks the river, I think we are good here. I bet this river.

After reading others checking the turn does sound good. I need a lot of work in this area. Shilx says it very well.

12-04-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Too much??
 
Hey Bravos!

Grunch:

I like the pf and flop play. BB must have missed VERY badly [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I play the turn the same, even with a weak flush. On the riv, I really don't see how else you can play it. Your seven beats the board & the SB needs either the A or J-8s to beat you. Since he didn't c/r the turn when he would have made a flush, I'm guessing you are good here, but I'm not re-betting the pot. If he also has another spade, 5 are higher & only 3 are lower. Checking behind is OK.


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